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re: Is it reasonable to ask neighbors to share the costs for a new fence?
Posted on 12/2/19 at 3:13 pm to teke184
Posted on 12/2/19 at 3:13 pm to teke184
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I’m waiting them out because they are supposedly moving in a year or so and the buyer will be required by the insurance carrier to fix it in order to get coverage since there is a pool.
This is what I did. My neighbors refused to split the cost of materials for me to build the fence that they tore down after I asked them not to tear it down, so I just didn't replace it. When they had a buyer for their house 18 months later, I guess they were too embarrassed to approach me about splitting the cost and paid someone to build it for them
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Posted on 12/2/19 at 3:13 pm to Alt26
of course it's reasonable. It happens all the time. If you don't care much, offer to have the boards face them as a concession to them chipping in. I personally prefer the rails in my yard.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 3:16 pm to teke184
Ah, I see. My pool having neighbor had no problem giving me $1,100 to split that side with me. Technically, I didn't need the fence
Posted on 12/2/19 at 3:18 pm to Alt26
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Is it reasonable to ask neighbors to share the costs for a new fence?
It's reasonable to ask them. It's also reasonable for them to say no if they don't have a use for the fence.
When I bought my property I reached out to all three neighbors. I told them I was going to clean up my lot and put up a privacy fence. If they wanted to contribute, it would be appreciated and they could have a say in the type/style and location of the fence. Two of my neighbors gladly pitched in. My third neighbor politely told me they didn't have a use for the fence and wouldn't chip in. I paid the full cost of that section. I split the other sections with those neighbors. If they all said no, I was still putting up the fence.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 3:20 pm to Alt26
I had a free side of boards facing away from me. I gave the two others the boards for half the cost. All happy.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 3:22 pm to Napoleon
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The fricker reused beau coup old boards and he ran the 2x4 wrong. He used metal joints at each one rather than put the joints at the 4x4
Yeah uh, that's how you run the 2x4s, using metal joints to connect them. You don't go setting posts exactly 8 feet apart (which is likely impossible) and connect each post with an 8' 2x4 (or in your case cut 8' 2x4s down to the right length to end at each 4x4 post). Now you need to make sure that the 2x4s are offset so those metal joints don't happen in the same gap between posts for the top and bottom runners, and if you do that, it's perfectly fine.
Posts should not be set more than 7' from each other, unless you want the wind to blow your fence down.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 3:34 pm to Alt26
When I moved into my first house there was no fence between my house and my neighbors house.
I got tired of having to talk to him every time he was hammered in his backyard and we we outside doing stuff, and also we had just had a baby and knew we’d need it eventually.
I brought up in conversation that we were gonna build a fence, and that we may need to access his yard to nail up the boards since we were going to put the boards facing his way. (I like the rails in my yard, made it easier to install mosquito control system)
I was laying the foundation for him to offer up half by starting this conversation. He immediately offered to pay for half the cost. If he wouldn’t have offered. Fence was still being built.
Long story short- find a way to bring it up casually and see if they offer it up. If they don’t not much you can do. Also make sure the fence you are replacing “belongs to you”.
I got tired of having to talk to him every time he was hammered in his backyard and we we outside doing stuff, and also we had just had a baby and knew we’d need it eventually.
I brought up in conversation that we were gonna build a fence, and that we may need to access his yard to nail up the boards since we were going to put the boards facing his way. (I like the rails in my yard, made it easier to install mosquito control system)
I was laying the foundation for him to offer up half by starting this conversation. He immediately offered to pay for half the cost. If he wouldn’t have offered. Fence was still being built.
Long story short- find a way to bring it up casually and see if they offer it up. If they don’t not much you can do. Also make sure the fence you are replacing “belongs to you”.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 3:39 pm to Alt26
The wife is probably already on his arse about replacing, so have them over for drinks and some food......mention the shitty fence and say that you are thinking of replacing.
He will jump at the chance to look good in front of his wife, and viola...new fence.
I always put the pickets outside, so it makes all the neighbors happy. I like the smooth side out.
He will jump at the chance to look good in front of his wife, and viola...new fence.
I always put the pickets outside, so it makes all the neighbors happy. I like the smooth side out.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 3:42 pm to Alt26
Reasonable to ask. Also reasonable for them to say no. Like others have said, maybe offer to let the "pretty side" face towards the neighbors who split the cost as an incentive for them to chip in. Or consider a "shadow box" style fence so the fence looks the same on both sides.
quote:Why not just figure out how much the fence will cost per linear foot and split the cost based on how many feet of fence will be shared with each neighbor?
I was thinking something along the lines of me paying 1/2 the cost or more and asking the neighbors to split the other 1/2 (1/4 the total per person).
Posted on 12/2/19 at 3:48 pm to Dam Guide
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Do your neighbors make use of your fence to fence in their yard or is your fence the only part of their yard fenced? If your fence is the only fence bordering their yard, it's your fence, you deal with it.
Each neighbor has a fully fenced in yard as well. One side of my fence separates the property line between my neighbor to the east. Another side separates the property line between my neighbor to the north. So technically "my fence" also make up parts of their backyard fences as well
I'm fine with paying for the whole thing if that is the right thing to do. It's just that their backyard fences will be getting (partial) upgrades on my nickle, which is why I asked about cost sharing. The biggest con for me is bringing them in on the control of the project (decisions on cost, contractor, materials, etc). But I felt, perhaps naively it would appear, that if I was changing part of "their" fence, they would probably want some say so in the project. Clearly, though, if I'm paying for the whole thing I don't really care about their input.
Thanks all for the input!
Posted on 12/2/19 at 4:13 pm to Alt26
LA Civil Code art 687: a fence on the boundary is presumed to be a common fence. Both landowners have the right to compel the other to contribute to the shared fence based on the principal that the liability for the expenses of common fences is based on the common benefit.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 4:18 pm to Alt26
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Thoughts?
put the fence that you want up, they aren't obligated at all, if they are decent they'll chip in, but they don't have to, just keep this in mind at the neighborhood Christmas party when their wives have a little too much to drink
Posted on 12/2/19 at 4:28 pm to TeddyPadillac
Those metal joist hangers is the wrong way to do it. Use long 2x4 ‘s to catch three posts.Stagger your joints. If you are ambitious notch your post and countersink the 2x4’s.
If you build gates,build them five times as strong as you think you need. Most wooden fences have gate problems. Ride around and look at them.
If you build gates,build them five times as strong as you think you need. Most wooden fences have gate problems. Ride around and look at them.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 4:31 pm to PrivatePublic
I think most places the "pretty" side goes to the neighbors.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 4:32 pm to Aristo
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I think most places the "pretty" side goes to the neighbors.
not if your replacing it on your own nickel
Posted on 12/2/19 at 4:36 pm to Alt26
This morning, the wind blew over a board on my neighbor's fence (fence faces their yard, board fell into their yard). Our dog escaped through the hole. I recover the dog, put a couple of bricks in front of the hole on our side and start contemplating what to do...
1) Show up on their doorstep and ask if I can fix the fence.
2) Fix the fence myself.
Being the socially awkward ghoul that I am, I decided on option number 2. So I walk into my neighbors yard with a hammer in one hand and a brick in the other. The entire time I'm thinking up headlines:
- Hammer Wielding Maniac Terrorizes Sleepy Town in the Heartland of America
- Who is this mysterious "Nail Man" delivering a dose of holiday horror?
- Pushed to the Sledge: A Story of Rage
I pulled a real half-assed job in a rush before they came home and saw me scurrying around in their yard like a tweaker. I'm waiting to see if they come over and bitch at me for not doing it up to Bob Vila's standards.
1) Show up on their doorstep and ask if I can fix the fence.
2) Fix the fence myself.
Being the socially awkward ghoul that I am, I decided on option number 2. So I walk into my neighbors yard with a hammer in one hand and a brick in the other. The entire time I'm thinking up headlines:
- Hammer Wielding Maniac Terrorizes Sleepy Town in the Heartland of America
- Who is this mysterious "Nail Man" delivering a dose of holiday horror?
- Pushed to the Sledge: A Story of Rage
I pulled a real half-assed job in a rush before they came home and saw me scurrying around in their yard like a tweaker. I'm waiting to see if they come over and bitch at me for not doing it up to Bob Vila's standards.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 4:37 pm to Alt26
It is very simple, ask them to chip in. If they dont, build the fence 2' inside the property line and leave the old fence in place.
Now they will have to deal with the old rotted fence on their own.
Now they will have to deal with the old rotted fence on their own.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 4:38 pm to Bigfishchoupique
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If you build gates,build them five times as strong as you think you need. Most wooden fences have gate problems. Ride around and look at them.
I built them for 2 years. I'm aware.
and you will rarely catch 3 posts. The key is to always catch at least 2, and like you said, you stagger your joints.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 4:39 pm to Alt26
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Each neighbor has a fully fenced in yard as well. One side of my fence separates the property line between my neighbor to the east. Another side separates the property line between my neighbor to the north. So technically "my fence" also make up parts of their backyard fences as well
If this is the case, then yes it is reasonable to ask them. The fence is a shared fence and both parties are technically responsible for its upkeep as both receive the benefit.
Now, that doesn't mean the neighbors have to pay. They may not think the fence needs upgrading. So, don't be surprised if they so no, but I don't think you are being unreasonable to ask.
If I was them, i'd probably want some type of input into what is going in, if I am going to be sharing it. That's just me though.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 4:40 pm to tigerfoot
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I always put the pickets outside, so it makes all the neighbors happy. I like the smooth side out.
Me too, but our whole neighborhood is shadowbox, so we stuck with that.
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