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Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:46 pm to matsuflex
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As far as the free military option goes. You can also do a non flying job in the guard or Active duty and get most of the cost of civilian training paid for while your in or after you get out also. (Try to get one that’s related (air traffic, mechanic, etc) This is sometimes a better option to become a pilot.
Based on what I’ve looked at he has several options. The reality is he’s 17 so we’re going to see how much of this sticks and as he matures look at what’s the best path. If he comes out of it with his PPL and IFR he’ll take that with him regardless if he decides to go the commercial route.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 4:51 pm to DesScorp
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The line of people that went in to the Navy wanting to be Maverick but ended up being Goose is endless
I went to college with a guy who wanted to be Maverick. Went into the AF and college…AFROTC…the whole thing. Problem is he was a moron. Fun guy but not very bright. Ended up at a desk in San Diego and surfed on his free time. Got out and the last I heard from him he moved to Costa Rica and was living like a nomad.
All in all…not the dream he wanted but still not too bad.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:16 pm to RockinRobin1955
What’s your color & gender?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:26 pm to 777Tiger
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yep, no disrespect to his dad but it sounds like his dad is a career military pilot with no intention of getting out and no real knowledge of the airline industry, and repeats cliches he's heard other guys in his same position say and the son is taking it as gospel
What did I say that was incorrect? I never discussed the job what so ever, I mentioned the hours?
I probably know 25 airline pilots and its basically the same thing. I live outside of Eglin there's probably 100s in my area.
Hell I know a guy that's putting off going to Delta because he's retiring from the AF/ Guard with 23 years on cruise control and didn't feel like going to work the Airline schedule yet. His words, not mine.
Are you suggesting my friend that lives down the street from me doesn't work 14 on/ 14 off for the cargo company?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 5:34 pm to Snipe
Just an FYI, Neither the military nor the civilian airlines are looking for straight white male pilots.
—Guess you missed the election last month.
—Guess you missed the election last month.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 6:11 pm to cypresstiger
Doesn't change the fact that this is the policy now. And considering these changes began to be implemented in Obama first term you’re kidding yourself if you think it’s going to be reversed in a few months.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:10 pm to TDTOM
quote:There are 195 F22s in the world.
I would imagine the F-22 program is very competitive.
There’s probably close to that many commercial planes parked at O’Hare alone at any given time.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:11 pm to RockinRobin1955
I work for one of the big four you mentioned. 2 years ago as long as you had your ATP you could have gotten hired at any of the big four. This past year hiring stopped. Plans to resume next year. Airlines are union based and seniority is king. If you can stick it out at a carrier and eventually move into a wide body captain, you can make high 6 figures. maybe even 7 figures with premium flying if you work at it.
It's a very Cush gig but only after you put your time in.
It's a very Cush gig but only after you put your time in.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:19 pm to RockinRobin1955
Much harder to qualify to be and succeed in becoming a fighter pilot. Becoming an airline pilot can be accomplished by going to a commercial pilot school and passing that program. Not easy but not fighter pilot level hard.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 8:38 pm to RockinRobin1955
Fighter pilot seat would be harder just due to limited number of openings in any given year along with the physical aspects of flying a fighter. In the future AI will probably completely replace the pilot in fighter jets so it will be even harder.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:00 pm to RockinRobin1955
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Currently going to a university and looking at a career in aviation. I’ve always been fascinated with Air Force fighter pilots and have always wanted to be in the cockpit of an F-22. Airline pilots are equally impressive though as flying and landing a jumbo jet is no easy task. I’ve always heard that becoming an airline pilot for one of the big four airlines (Delta, Southwest, United, American) is super difficult and arguably harder than becoming a fighter pilot in the Air Force. Is this true? Just wanted some opinions.
Air Force has more fixed wing slots. Good luck going the civilian route. You’ll have $150k in licenses+cost of living debt and then you’ll be making $40k at a regional. Not recommended unless you have a trust fund….
There’s a pilot shortage for a reason.
This post was edited on 12/5/24 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:03 pm to nobigdeal69
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Highly competitive. Could be a DISASTER if it doesn’t work out.
It is competitive. My older brother was a Navy pilot, stayed in reserves, and flew commercial for Delta, then United.
Most of his fellow pilots were former military.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:10 pm to riverdiver
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It is competitive. My older brother was a Navy pilot, stayed in reserves, and flew commercial for Delta, then United. Most of his fellow pilots were former military.
Why would he leave Delta, a more stable airline, and give up his seniority?
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:36 pm to baldona
landing is a critical skill common to military and commercial
Posted on 12/5/24 at 9:37 pm to CocomoLSU
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A lot of fighter pilots eventually become OT posters.
FIFY
Posted on 12/5/24 at 10:16 pm to Friscodog
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you can make high 6 figures. maybe even 7 figures with premium flying if you work at it.
Ain’t nobody making a million dollars flying commercial airlines. If I’m wrong, prove it and send me an application.
Posted on 12/5/24 at 11:03 pm to RockinRobin1955
Delta frowns on you going Mach 2 with your hair on fire....
Posted on 12/6/24 at 12:21 am to VooDude
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then you’ll be making $40k at a regional.
Closer to 90k year 1 (on average)
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There’s a pilot shortage for a reason.
Has absolutely nothing to do with pilot pay.
This post was edited on 12/6/24 at 12:25 am
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