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Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:46 pm to Capt ST
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So you’re saying he committed no crime?
I honestly haven’t gone digging through the criminal statutes in what I assume was California. I’m simply surprised that so many on this board seem to have done so, at least based on their certainty regarding the subject.
Eta: New Mexico, apparently.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:46 pm to Vamos Brandonos
How long will we let the elites and super rich rape our children and murder everyday citizens? When will a Patriot stand up and do something?
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:46 pm to stout
The girl in charge of the armory should be charged with manslaughter.
Alec has to live with killing a woman, I’m sure that weighs heavy on him. Maybe he could be charged with something but what!? He clearly wasn’t wanting to kill the woman or know gun was loaded.
Alec has to live with killing a woman, I’m sure that weighs heavy on him. Maybe he could be charged with something but what!? He clearly wasn’t wanting to kill the woman or know gun was loaded.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:47 pm to Vamos Brandonos
Never was gonna happen, Hollywood royalty are above the law if certain people want them to be
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:47 pm to Joshjrn
Do you believe Baldwin should be indicted for negligent homicide?
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:47 pm to danilo
quote:until Jan 2025 at the earliest
How long will we let the elites and super rich rape our children and murder everyday citizens?
Is that a problem?
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:49 pm to Joshjrn
quote:at the very least he should be charged with negligent homicide
Which statute would you like to see him charged with?
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:51 pm to jrowla2
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The girl in charge of the armory should be charged with manslaughter.
Do you point guns at people and pull the trigger if someone hands it to you and says it's empty?
This was a test shot setting up for the scene and Alec didn't confirm the gun was empty and had no reason to pull the trigger. Negligent homicide should apply to him too.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:51 pm to Joshjrn
quote:Murder
Which statute would you like to see him charged with?
Self-Righteous Pomposity
Malicious Mischief
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:52 pm to Breauxsif
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Do you believe Baldwin should be indicted for negligent homicide?
Based on a few seconds of googling, it appears that Negligent Homicide doesn’t exist in New Mexico. Closest I can see is Involuntary Manslaughter, which is defined as:
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B. Involuntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to felony, or in the commission of a lawful act which might produce death in an unlawful manner or without due caution and circumspection.
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And honestly? I have no fricking idea. That’s an absolutely abysmal word salad of a law that I imagine has reams of jurisprudence defining each of those words.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:53 pm to Joshjrn
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New Mexico Statutes › 2018 New Mexico Statutes › Chapter 30 - Criminal Offenses › Article 2 - Homicide › Section 30-2-3 - Manslaughter.
2018 New Mexico Statutes
Chapter 30 - Criminal Offenses
Article 2 - Homicide
Section 30-2-3 - Manslaughter.
Universal Citation: NM Stat § 30-2-3 (2018)
30-2-3. Manslaughter.
Manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice.
A. Voluntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed upon a sudden quarrel or in the heat of passion.
Whoever commits voluntary manslaughter is guilty of a third degree felony resulting in the death of a human being.
B. Involuntary manslaughter consists of manslaughter committed in the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to felony, or in the commission of a lawful act which might produce death in an unlawful manner or without due caution and circumspection.
Whoever commits involuntary manslaughter is guilty of a fourth degree felony.
Statute is clearly there. Whether the DA decides to prosecute depends on whether the shooter is average Joe or Alec Baldwin.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:53 pm to Joshjrn
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Does it even exist in the state in question? If so, what’s the definition
Another case of people just assigning random homicide laws to a case in a specific jurisdiction.
NM does not have a homicide charge called negligent homicide. Without any show of intent the closest charge to the facts as I understand them would be negligent manslaughter NEW MEXICO STAT. ANN. § 30-2-3. It requires clearing the reckless bar. There is a petty misdemeanor § 40A-7-3 negligent use of a firearm that could also possibly be proven.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:54 pm to jrowla2
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The girl in charge of the armory should be charged with manslaughter. Alec has to live with killing a woman, I’m sure that weighs heavy on him. Maybe he could be charged with something but what!? He clearly wasn’t wanting to kill the woman or know gun was loaded.
You may be able to charge her with something but the biggest charges go on Baldwin. When that gun is in you hand you are responsible for it.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:55 pm to Joshjrn
Due caution and circumspection: checking to see if the gun you're pointing at others is unloaded. Not putting your finger on the trigger.
A first year law student can show how this statute applies here.
A first year law student can show how this statute applies here.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:56 pm to Joshjrn
To bring it to Louisiana, it would be a borderline case for Negligent Homicide. NH requires more than simple negligence, requiring criminal negligence, which instead of a deviation from the standard of care, requires a gross deviation from the standard of care. Considering the circumstances on a movie set, I think it’s arguable either way of whether his actions constituted criminal negligence. Certainly simple negligence, though.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:58 pm to Vamos Brandonos
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Due caution and circumspection: checking to see if the gun you're pointing at others is unloaded. Not putting your finger on the trigger. A first year law student can show how this statute applies here.
A first year law student could certainly show how it could apply. And only a first year law student would be ignorant enough to think that it applies with certainty without doing significantly more research into how the courts have defined those terms.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:01 pm to Joshjrn
Those words have commonly understood meanings. Court interpretation is not required.
Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:01 pm to Vamos Brandonos
He’s a rich elitist celebrity who supports democrats. What do you think will happen?
Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:01 pm to Joshjrn
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So you have no idea which, if any, law he broke, but you’re absolutely certain he should be charged with breaking the law. Brilliant.
Sort of like what Dems have been doing to Trump huh?
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