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Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:35 am to cajunangelle
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The skin tags direction. Wasn't skin tag direction leading to the testimony yesterday that Paul's wound was point blank to the head?
Yes, this is the state's reply to that expert testimony.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:36 am to KosmoCramer
This woman is dismantling the quack ellicks team drug up there.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:39 am to KosmoCramer
So wait... the guy for the defense said yesterday. The shot was point blank. And this lady is saying that the shot went through the shoulder or wherever-and then THE EXIT WOUND to the head?
She is saying that if it was point blank barrel contact shot to the head shot... His head would have been blown off-off and he would have had no face remaining?
She is saying that if it was point blank barrel contact shot to the head shot... His head would have been blown off-off and he would have had no face remaining?
This post was edited on 2/28/23 at 9:42 am
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:41 am to cajunangelle
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So wait... the guy for the defense said yesterday. The shot was point blank. And this lady is saying that the shot went through the shoulder or where ever-and then to the head?
She is saying that if it was point blank barrel contact shot to the head shot... His head would have been blown off-off and he would have had no face remaining?
Yes. Competing experts is very common in these kinds of trials.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:43 am to cajunangelle
Does it really matter how his brains were specifically blown out of his skull?
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:44 am to STLhog
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Someone tell me why he would be anywhere NEAR the scene at time of death if he had hired someone to do the hit? He could have EASILY had a rock solid alibi by being at his parents and having them taken out. Or anywhere for that matter. Makes no sense. He 100% did it himself.
That logic certainly excludes any AM-orchestrated third party hit.
And there’s zero evidence of third party involvement.
And Alex was there with them minutes before they were murdered.
And he lied about being there repeatedly.
And he tried to fake an alibi timeline with the mother visit, including speeding there (once he slowed down to dump MM’s phone) and back, pressuring the mother’s caretaker to say he was there longer than he was, etc.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:44 am to KosmoCramer
Understood. But there is quite a difference.
But over all to a layman listening...a point blank shot would have blown off his head and face. Yet the guy yesterday was convincing in the moment as well...
But over all to a layman listening...a point blank shot would have blown off his head and face. Yet the guy yesterday was convincing in the moment as well...
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:46 am to redstick13
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Does it really matter how his brains were specifically blown out of his skull?
Late to this party, but I thought the expert was saying that the shooter would likely have been injured from bone fragments and would have absolutely been covered in gore.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:46 am to cajunangelle
This might be a dumb question, but is that lady with the thing on her mouth the court stenographer? Is she just mumbling everything said?
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:48 am to Bonkers119
I was wondering the same thing
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:49 am to Bonkers119
Voice to text thing that is used instead of the old school typing thing.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:49 am to Bonkers119
quote:Not a dumb question
This might be a dumb question, but is that lady with the thing on her mouth the court stenographer? Is she just mumbling everything said?

Does she speak and type? Is it a new thing to stop covid spread? <----now that is a dumb question. HAHA!
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:49 am to clownbaby
I just googled it, and apparently that's who it is. The machine she uses just translates everything to text.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:52 am to cajunangelle
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Side note reading the list of all the victims: All of the cases where people got their settlement monies stolen involved many lawyers at the firm not just AM.
This post has my imagination racing. They may be using Alex as a fall guy.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:54 am to JudgeHolden
quote:Exactly. Thanks for the key reminder. It blew my mind yesterday thinking AM would have HAD to have been full of blood and gore if he was the actual shooter.
Late to this party, but I thought the expert was saying that the shooter would likely have been injured from bone fragments and would have absolutely been covered in gore.
Then as I would lean AM wasn't the shooter because of this. The 80 mile per hour driving down a potholed dirt road and slowing to 40ish where Maggie's phone was found brings me right back to AM being guilty of something.
He had no reasonable reason to speed like that to his moms house. There was no emergency.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 9:56 am to JudgeHolden
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Late to this party, but I thought the expert was saying that the shooter would likely have been injured from bone fragments and would have absolutely been covered in gore.
I think that and the difference between contact would and 3 or so feet away seems to go to the ability to fire both guns quickly enough.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:02 am to Jtomka
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This post has my imagination racing. They may be using Alex as a fall guy.
Of course he is. That's how this works.
Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:03 am to Havoc
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I think that and the difference between contact would and 3 or so feet away seems to go to the ability to fire both guns quickly enough.
It also goes to the brutality of the murders. It takes a very cold hearted SOB to look your son in the eyes and blow his brains out with shotgun from point blank range. It's a very brutal and personal killing to inflict catastrophic wounds. Which would be more consistent with the defenses theory of a pissed off person spurred by alleged embellished reports of Paul's malfeasance, or of a 12 year old kid playing batman, per Waters

Posted on 2/28/23 at 10:05 am to Jtomka
Hearing his law partner on the stand I revisited this. In that list there were other lawyers in the firm in direct control of those cases.
I watched the testimony of AM's Paralegal.
From just this testimony alone. I don't think the paralegals, secretaries were involved. But some lawyers at the firm seemed to be in that list of clients.
My opinion from the paralegals testimony is Miss Jeanne (CFO?) seemed a little fishy as well..As far as knowing what was going on but only did something when they were questioned/forced.
How could you be the financial Officer and not see AM grabbing the lawyers fees to his name (His secret? Forged bank account via BOA?)
I watched the testimony of AM's Paralegal.
From just this testimony alone. I don't think the paralegals, secretaries were involved. But some lawyers at the firm seemed to be in that list of clients.
My opinion from the paralegals testimony is Miss Jeanne (CFO?) seemed a little fishy as well..As far as knowing what was going on but only did something when they were questioned/forced.
How could you be the financial Officer and not see AM grabbing the lawyers fees to his name (His secret? Forged bank account via BOA?)
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