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re: Interesting new “development” on Scot Peterson (resource officer)
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:02 pm to Salmon
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:02 pm to Salmon
quote:It doesnt mean though he failed at "attempting to engage"
That doesn't change the fact that he failed at his one job.
We dont know what actually happened yet, but that doesnt stop hardass baws in here from /thread pussy /thread cuck /thread beta
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Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:03 pm to terd ferguson
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His lawyer's statement says he was trained to seek cover and assess. Which means that's his defense. Which means he didn't do shite.
according to my buddy that used to train LEO on active shooter situations, this is bullshite
after Columbine, they changed the training to always engage as quickly as possible
but a lot of old school cops still have this mentality ingrained in them
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:03 pm to terd ferguson
Yeah, this "devil's advocate" bit with this guy is starting to go off the rails here.
He's not a coward? Fine, whatever. But he's definitely at least completely incompetent.
He's not a coward? Fine, whatever. But he's definitely at least completely incompetent.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:03 pm to shel311
To be fair shel, the attorney said he sought cover and tried to assess the situation with other law enforcement agencies. The attorney pretty clearly implies that his inaction was the SOP for the situation he believed was happening.
It seems pretty clear he made no attempts to engage the shooter, even if he misunderstood where the shooter was located.
It seems pretty clear he made no attempts to engage the shooter, even if he misunderstood where the shooter was located.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:03 pm to baldona
quote:It's pretty obvious he never engaged the suspect. It seems like he never attempted to.
You don't think that Sheriffs would have bragged about his officer engaging the suspect if the officer did engage? The city cops complained that the sheriffs stood around while they engaged.
My only point you responded to was that we don't know for sure that he did NOT attempt to.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:04 pm to shel311
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Why did students tell him the shooter was outside then?
Why didn't he go where the gun fire was - sustained fire for 4 minutes. He was firing a round more than once every two seconds. You have no answers for this.
Go ask your local SWAT if you can observe their training. Listen to them on the range. Listen to them in a shoothouse. Blindfold yourself. Listen again. You'll know if they are indoors or outdoors.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:04 pm to shel311
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So because he never found that shooter, that 100% means he didn't try...lol
So you're going to ignore the 2nd part of my post where his lawyer stated that he was trained to seek cover??
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:05 pm to slackster
quote:After he assessed, what did he do next?
To be fair shel, the attorney said he sought cover and tried to assess the situation with other law enforcement agencies. The attorney pretty clearly implies that his inaction was the SOP for the situation he believed was happening.
It seems pretty clear he made no attempts to engage the shooter, even if he misunderstood where the shooter was located.
We have a lot of "it seems clear" and this and that, I don't care what it seemed. What did he actually do? If nothing, have at him, he deserves it. All I'm asking for is what actually happened, which I don't see much confirmed that we know.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:06 pm to starsandstripes
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He said he was the first Broward deputy to dispatch on police radio shots were being fired, and he told a first-arriving Coral Springs officer he “thought that the shots were coming from outside.” That arriving officer then took up a tactical position behind a tree with his rifle.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:07 pm to terd ferguson
quote:No, I addressed it.
So you're going to ignore the 2nd part of my post where his lawyer stated that he was trained to seek cover??
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:07 pm to shel311
quote:
We have a lot of "it seems clear" and this and that, I don't care what it seemed. What did he actually do? If nothing, have at him, he deserves it. All I'm asking for is what actually happened, which I don't see much confirmed that we know.
Haven't seen the press release, just the snippets on Fox News. I'm sure the timeline is laid out in that release.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:07 pm to The Great McGinty
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If I truly believe that I did my best at the time of the shooting, I would not have resigned. If he was told there was a shooter outside so he took a defensive position to get a better understanding of the situation but you must try to advance to the threat by all means necessary. You must advance. .
It's hard to say what happened. Was it ever reported that he resigned because he failed to do his job? With the initial story, he could have been forced to resign because.. Well, they didn't want to keep the person on, who everyone assumes didn't do anything.
Who knows what happened? Everyone at that school, in that moment, was running for their life. At first, I am sure most of the people didn't know exactly what was happening. Does anyone know exactly where the security guard was when the shooting started? If so, what was the distance between him and the scene? Did he just say outside because he was scared to face the shooter?
Either way, no one can go back and change what happened.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:07 pm to starsandstripes
quote:Why did students tell him the shooter was outside then?
starsandstripes
Stop dodging that question, since you have this all figured out, answer that question. How is he supposed to know exactly where the shooter is when no one seems to know exactly where the shooter is?
You can just concede that it's not as easy as you think, it's ok to concede that. You'll still be a macho hero if you do.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:08 pm to shel311
quote:
Why did students tell him the shooter was outside then?
because that is probably where those students last saw him
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:11 pm to shel311
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Why did students tell him the shooter was outside then?
You realize the shooter is likely to move too right? 4 minutes is enough time to move across the entirety of most high schools.
Again, the sheriff was in front of the building. 'Outside' is behind th me building, which is no better for him and if anything worse. He should have been moving forward from the parking lot no matter where he thought the shooter was located.
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:22 pm to baldona
quote:No fricking way
You realize the shooter is likely to move too right? 4 minutes is enough time to move across the entirety of most high schools.
I went to Catholic High in BR, and no way are you casing the entirety of that school in 4 minutes
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:25 pm to starsandstripes
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starsandstripes
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You are stupid.
This amuses me
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:25 pm to lsupride87
Well most schools only give you 4 or 5 minutes between classes so you better be able to cross a school in that time. 
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:26 pm to windshieldman
Didn't he just release a statement from his lawyer saying that the initial reports were that fire crackers were reported and he sprinted to them.
Broward County Sheriff’s Deputy Scot Peterson released a statement today
Broward County Sheriff’s Deputy Scot Peterson released a statement today
This post was edited on 2/26/18 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 2/26/18 at 2:28 pm to Walking the Earth
quote:yeh, i wouldnt consider going from one building directly to another building "casing the entire school"......
Well most schools only give you 4 or 5 minutes between classes so you better be able to cross a school in that time.
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