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re: Interesting lawsuit in Orleans that could affect magnet and academy schools statewide.

Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:38 am to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:38 am to
So out of curiosity, is the school technically part of Orleans Parish Schools? And if so, is there a school in Orleans Parish that is equipped to handle medically fragile children like the kid in the OP?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 10:58 am to
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Why does it feel like these parents are using their disabled kid as a prop for a a performative lawsuit.


Because they probably use him as a prop in their everyday life. Probably have Go-Fund Me, cry on social media, etc
Posted by LazloHollyfeld
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:10 am to
That guy is a loser using his kid to sue various entities around the city - he sued the RTA for access issues on the streetcar a year or two ago.
Posted by Guess
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:28 am to
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So out of curiosity, is the school technically part of Orleans Parish Schools? And if so, is there a school in Orleans Parish that is equipped to handle medically fragile children like the kid in the OP?


I'm not exactly sure how it works, but there really aren't that many Orleans parish public schools anymore. A lot of them became Charters like the school we are talking about now. It was Alcee Fortier when I was in high school and would have been lucky to be ranked in the top 10000 public schools in the country back then. Orleans residents do have the option for their kids to go there if they get in so they do somewhat fall under the Orleans Parish school board, but I think they are almost a singular district as their own school.

A lot of Charters are a money grabs and as bad or worse than their public predecessor, but The Willow obviously is now one of the best schools in the country so Charters can be hit or miss.
Posted by PUB
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:38 am to
“back then”
Back in the 50’s, Fortier was top quality.
Posted by Guess
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 11:48 am to
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Back in the 50’s, Fortier was top quality.


I'm not that old yet I'm talking Fortier in the mid to late 90's. We played them them in football. I think in 95. We were like top five in small schools and they were top 10 in big schools. Think they won it was close either way. I remember a kid that was an LSU recruit that knocked the braces out of my boys mouth
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 12:14 pm to
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I'm not exactly sure how it works, but there really aren't that many Orleans parish public schools anymore. A lot of them became Charters like the school we are talking about now. It was Alcee Fortier when I was in high school and would have been lucky to be ranked in the top 10000 public schools in the country back then. Orleans residents do have the option for their kids to go there if they get in so they do somewhat fall under the Orleans Parish school board, but I think they are almost a singular district as their own school.

A lot of Charters are a money grabs and as bad or worse than their public predecessor, but The Willow obviously is now one of the best schools in the country so Charters can be hit or miss.


My thought is that if they're under the umbrella of a public school board/district, then they can argue that the district provides those services and it's not up to the individual school to do so.

Hence why in most larger public school districts, some kids will attend a school outside of their typical resides if they need a certain type of services. The school I worked at had a deaf/hard of hearing unit as well as a unit for students who were wheelchair bound/medically fragile (not to the degree of the kid in the OP) and we got kids from all over the county because we were the designated school for those services. They didn't have to "apply" even though it was a full magnet school.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:09 pm to
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Oscar has the cognitive ability of a 1-or-2-year-old child


How would he be successful in any normal school environment?

Take the amount of money the state / school board would spend on a special Ed student and use that towards the cost of him receiving specialized attention.

Posted by profdillweed
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:11 pm to
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Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:16 pm to
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m not exactly sure how it works, but there really aren't that many Orleans parish public schools anymore
I believe there is exactly one true public school in New Orleans
Posted by LouisianaLady
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:17 pm to
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In New Orleans, the Orleans Parish School Board (OPSB) authorizes Type 1 and Type 3 charter schools, while the Louisiana State Board of Elementary and Secondary Education (BESE) authorizes Type 2 charter schools. This means that while many New Orleans public schools are charter schools, they are overseen by different authorities.



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The Willow School in New Orleans is a Type 3 charter school. It is a public school operated by the Advocates for Arts-Based Education Corporation, a nonprofit entity, in partnership with the New Orleans Public Schools (NOLA PS). This means it was converted from an existing public school and is still part of the NOLA PS district. The school is authorized by the Orleans Parish School Board (OPSB).


What I take this to mean is they are authorized by the public district and, in some regards, "part of that district". Even if not officially.
This post was edited on 5/30/25 at 1:20 pm
Posted by profdillweed
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:21 pm to
If you dig deep enough, the budget for Lusher (The Willow School) will blow your mind
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:23 pm to
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I'm not exactly sure how it works, but there really aren't that many Orleans parish public schools anymore.


All public schools in NOLA are charter except for the Leah Chase school that just opened.
Posted by profdillweed
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 1:29 pm to
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All public schools in NOLA are charter except for the Leah Chase school that just opened.



This
Posted by tigergirl10
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:05 pm to
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communicates using a device that tracks his eye movement, allowing him to ask for things like water or for people like his mom, dad or younger sister.
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appropriate public education.
Seems a little beyond appropriate. Schools are already limited with funding and assistance for regular students. What is the point of sending him to school?
Posted by tigergirl10
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:07 pm to
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Will he also get a starting spot on the football team because the tryouts discriminate against people with disabilities.
I’m sorry, but I laughed way too hard at this.
Posted by saderade
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:17 pm to
I always thought Willow’s admission test is pretty rigorous which is why it’s such a highly ranked school.
Posted by profdillweed
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:27 pm to
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I always thought Willow’s admission test is pretty rigorous which is why it’s such a highly ranked school.


it all depends on when you take it and what year you're trying to enter into and if you have any ties to Tulane or have a siblings or parent that is faculty
Posted by NOLATiger163
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:47 pm to
Some additional info that some of you might find helpful:

* Willow is basically what used to be Lusher. Lusher was historically arguably the public grammar school in New Orleans for upper- and upper-middle-class kids whose parents had or wanted to send them to a public school. The Lusher parents and administration have pushed it to expand out of its historical grade range (grammar school) and campus to also serve more and older kids under the same name and umbrella.

* There are actually three related but different Willow schools (one physically separate and two on adjacent sites) serving different age ranges. They're all public charter schools in Orleans Parish. The school on Willow St. that was long called Lusher now covers K-4, the high school is on Freret St. (at the campus that was long Fortier), and most recently the middle school is on Loyola Ave. that backs up to the high school (historically Allen). Insofar as the kid whose parents are suing is nine years old, presumably he'd be age-appropriate for fourth or maybe fifth grade next school year (August 2025).

* The Orleans Parish School Board has the obligation, under federal law (Rehabilitation Act and/or Individuals with Disabilities Education Act), to provide all school-age children who live in Orleans Parish with 'a free appropriate public education'. But "appropriate" doesn't mean whatever or wherever the parents want.

* My guess is that the parents want it to occur at one of the Willow campuses because they're (especially by the historical standards of Orleans Parish public schools) fairly free of crime, dysfunction, and drama; in relatively good physical condition; and in fairly nice neighborhoods.

Seems to me the parents are way out of line. The OPSB gets to provide such profound services wherever they think best, within their reasonable discretion. The parents can try to prove in court that that would not be appropriate and/or adequate. If it's not that, then parents lose. But entitled and/or downright crazy parents are an epidemic.
Posted by Motownsix
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Posted on 5/30/25 at 2:58 pm to
Shouldn’t it be that if you receive public funds you have to play by public rules?
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