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Insurance rates up? Here's why.

Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:47 am
Posted by VandyBoysWhistler
Member since Nov 2023
64 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:47 am
Been in the business since 1995 so I have a pretty good pulse on the industry. Over the last several years insurance companies have paid out more in claims than they have collected in premium, especially in auto liability claims.

Vehicles cost more to repair today due to the technology on vehicles today. Most vehicles have cameras, lane departure signals and adaptive cruise control. When the technology is damaged, cost of repairs are up 200% in some cases.

Finally, global catastrophic property claims are another reason. If you live on the coast, you will pay more in premium than someone who lives inland.

Here is the bottom line. If carriers pay out more in claims than premium collected, everyone's premium is going up.
Posted by caill430
Da Dirty Dell
Member since Jul 2005
1103 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:49 am to
Unless you are talking about health insurance
Posted by cdhorn28
Member since Sep 2016
193 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:50 am to
Posted by sidewalkside
rent free in yo head
Member since Sep 2021
1638 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:51 am to
wow. groundbreaking news. who-wudda-thunk??? VandyBoys dropping absolute dimes of knowledge.
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
4611 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:51 am to
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VandyBoysWhistler


You hit the nail on the head. Insofar as car insurance goes, Louisiana's legislature recognized this problem back when Blanco was governor (2004) and raised minimum levels from 10/20/10 to 25/50/50 thus creating a system where more premiums would be paid and more coverage provided. Blanco vetoed the bill. The next year the legislature managed to get through a paltry $5K increase.

In the past 20 years....all the costs have continued to rise and yet the insurance companies are still collecting bare minimum premiums
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43098 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:53 am to
No shite.

Doesn't make it right though...
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
22675 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:53 am to
No one wants to hear this, but it is time for an increase in the minimums.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12744 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:54 am to
I'm in the industry as well and there are numerous factors which influence pricing, and just about everything now is yielding an increase.

Inflation, excess losses across other lines of business, increase in catastrophic events, increased cost of litigation, increased construction costs, trends out of London, etc.
Posted by VandyBoysWhistler
Member since Nov 2023
64 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:54 am to
Agree 100%, but it's a reality for all of us.
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart...
Member since Oct 2008
3236 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:56 am to
Well I don’t want most of those toys in my vehicle. You can’t find stripped down new vehicles though.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
12744 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:56 am to
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No shite.

Doesn't make it right though...


When risk is transferred, internal and external factors are used to calculate the premium for the risk.

Don't want someone else's claims to factor in to your premium? Self insure.

Eta- speaking in general as I know self insuring isnt possible when insurance is required (eg. auto)
This post was edited on 1/4/24 at 8:01 am
Posted by CaptainsWafer
TD Platinum Member
Member since Feb 2006
58333 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:58 am to
“BuT IvE nEvEr FiLeD a ClAiM”
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 7:59 am to
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Here's why.

1 - Crooked politicians writing terrible laws
2 -captive audience
Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
2060 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:02 am to
quote:

Over the last several years insurance companies have paid out more in claims than they have collected


Then someone taking my share. between my wife and I there are 46 years of driving. Zero insurance claims. Maybe insurance needs to see what they're doing.
Posted by TJack
BR
Member since Dec 2018
1295 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:10 am to
Now do those that drive with paper plates? How much does theirs go up?
Posted by Buzz Lightbeer
Member since Feb 2018
1139 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:11 am to
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Been in the business since 1995


Posted by Slingscode
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
1851 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:27 am to
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excess losses across other lines of busines


This is the horseshite reason. Get out of businesses you don't understand and get back to what you do best.
If I can make poor business decisions and know I have a back stop of raising rates, then there is no incentive to perform.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22720 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:29 am to
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Over the last several years insurance companies have paid out more in claims than they have collected in premium, especially in auto liability claims.


For auto, this is a self fulfilling prophecy.

They argue with everyone and give you the runaround so that you have to hire a lawyer.

I have a coworker trying to get his truck fixed after it he was hit from behind in Oct. Freaking Oct. The other guys ins told him to get a quote from a particular body shop, got a $1300 quote, gave him the runaround for a month and a half, then said they wouldn't pay this body shop. To go to another. Dude can't get his truck fixed. Will probably have to hire a lawyer and sue for the repair, which will cost the insurance company way more than $1300.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:32 am to
Insurance companies are still buying football stadiums and first slot superbowl commercials.

Forgive me if I don't like paying more
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
5556 posts
Posted on 1/4/24 at 8:33 am to
You're going to get blasted but it's the truth. COVID had an effect too, auto accidents coming out of COVID were much more severe, higher payouts.

I work for a top 10, I haven't seen the year end numbers yet but last I checked only one or 2 in the top 10 had a combined ratio under 100, meaning only 1 or 2 companies were profitable. Our commercial lines were, that's it.
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