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re: Inefficient Company Meetings Rant
Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:48 pm to madamsquirrel
Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:48 pm to madamsquirrel
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Right because you are a guy. Even if I wear jeans and a nice top my hair takes much longer to fix and women normally wear makeup. One swipe with a comb and wash your face and men are good. It is not professional to have messy hair and no makeup on imo. Even if it is fine to you the headshot is much nicer and more polished.
I haven't really dressed up for an internal meeting in years, and I'm the end client for what I do, so I don't really dress up for external meetings either. Obviously don't roll into an external meeting in a tank top, but polo and jeans and you're fine. I'm not a boomer, I'm 36, but it is a pretty hard rule for me especially when I am training. Nothing pisses me off more than taking time out of my day to train, and speaking to a blank wall of initials and getting zero responses to training questions. Get burned multiple times because people are not paying attention, and your opinion will change real damn quick.
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Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:50 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
quote:Gosh, this sounds like fun!
I'm a part of a two man software dev team supporting problematic infrastructure.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 12:55 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
Yall just need to watch this:
This post was edited on 6/3/24 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 6/3/24 at 1:35 pm to madamsquirrel
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One swipe with a comb and wash your face and men are good.
In fairness, who’s imposing these standards on women? It’s certainly not the guys you’re on a call with. Maybe it was in 1963 but it absolutely isn’t today.
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Even if it is fine to you the headshot is much nicer and more polished.
I get that it looks nicer, but looking nice shouldn’t be the objective of the meeting. Participation should be and you can’t interact with a still headshot.
I mean…you’re doing something to your hair whether you’re working that day or not I assume? Whatever that something is is probably perfectly fine for a Teams meeting unless your company has asshats making the dress code.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 1:40 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
Try listening to the Working Genius.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 1:41 pm to Alyosha
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Lots of discussion and nodding of heads with no clear action points. Then everyone forgets when it’s time to execute.
Or action points, but nobody takes ownership/aren't assigned to anybody, then they don't get done. Repeat meeting in 2-4 weeks.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 1:47 pm to Alyosha
It's management way to keep you guys in check since they know you are way smarter then they will ever be
Posted on 6/3/24 at 2:49 pm to chrome_daddy
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There will be a number of people that will be glad I'm gone as I have no issue providing feedback on the above. Not on my watch.
My favorite meetings were at Shell Geismar where one of the team members would bring a banana and start acting like he was fellating it when some moron (there was always that one micromanager) would try to extend the meeting with worrying about details which didn't matter at all. The banana trick never failed to break up the meeting. "What? I'm just having my snack, I'm hypoglycemic (which was a lie)"
Posted on 6/3/24 at 3:04 pm to Dadren
My meetings are either internal higher up boomers who just want everyone on camera or clients who should be an email or a telephone call who weirdly ask for cameras to be on. Lack of participation is not the issue.
I 100% actually agree on it for training. Making sure people are paying attention and not time wasting is valid.
I 100% actually agree on it for training. Making sure people are paying attention and not time wasting is valid.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 3:20 pm to madamsquirrel
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clients who should be an email or a telephone call who weirdly ask for cameras to be on.
OK that is a little weird.
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either internal higher up boomers who just want everyone on camera
That’s interesting, at my company it’s people my age (40s) or younger. The boomers have no interest in digital face time and are happy to yammer on voice-only. And the ones that do turn their cameras on often have no idea how to actually be on camera, so you spend the meeting looking at the side of their head or up their nose or at a black screen because they have a lens cover on.
As for the higher ups, I get it. They want to see faces. We communicate a lot with our faces and there’s just a lot that you miss in terms of “feeling the temperature of the room” when you’re looking at headshots and initials on a screen.
I don’t feel particularly strongly about it, I’m definitely not going to be the only one with a camera on on a meeting but I get it.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 3:30 pm to TigerCoon
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just keep dropping a bunch of technical terms to confuse them and make yourself look smart.
The old “if you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshite” routine.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 3:37 pm to Dadren
quote:this is my biggest pet peeve honestly
turn their cameras on often have no idea how to actually be on camera, so you spend the meeting looking at the side of their head or up their nose
Posted on 6/3/24 at 3:45 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
Back when I was a prosecutor my boss had to attend these meetings with various law enforcement agencies. She was unavailable one day so I had to go in her place. After about an hour or so it seemed that everything that needed to be said had already been said. But the meeting went on and on.
I had a lot of work back at the office and was wondering "don't these people have anything else to do?" All of a sudden it hit me. No they didn't, attending meetings like this was what they all did for a living.
I had a lot of work back at the office and was wondering "don't these people have anything else to do?" All of a sudden it hit me. No they didn't, attending meetings like this was what they all did for a living.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 3:46 pm to chrome_daddy
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- No agenda
THIS!
If you don't have agenda, don't bother me.
I've heard, "Well, I can't narrow it down to a specific agenda at this tie."
Well, you aren't ready for the meeting then.
Tell me what the questions (issues) are and why they are still not solved. THEN, I will prepare and attend with the goal of solving. If you don't have the issues defined, I cannot prepare and therefore your "meeting" is basically verbalizing an agenda.
Stop being lazy!
Posted on 6/3/24 at 4:01 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
You need to give yourself a good nickname like T-Bone.
Or maybe Coco.
Or maybe Coco.
Posted on 6/3/24 at 4:05 pm to Dadren
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That’s interesting, at my company it’s people my age (40s) or younger. The boomers have no interest in digital face time and are happy to yammer on voice-only. And the ones that do turn their cameras on often have no idea how to actually be on camera, so you spend the meeting looking at the side of their head or up their nose or at a black screen because they have a lens cover on.
I’m 100% a “that should have been a fricking email” guy, but the one thing I hate more than video meetings are phone meetings with more than three people. Without facial cues, half the meeting is spent talking over one another, then waiting in silence to let them talk, then talking over each other again
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