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re: In your opinion, do these photos look like the same guy?
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:20 pm to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:20 pm to PrimeTime Money
Eyebrows are different.
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:22 pm to Bodyaid
Doesn’t look like the same guy to me.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:22 pm to OysterPoBoy
Look at the second and third pictures. The eyebrows look exactly the same.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:22 pm to crewdepoo
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Are you about to defend a nazi?
This is why I love coming to the OT.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:25 pm to crewdepoo
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Are you about to defend a nazi?
I'll defend that motherfricker.
frickin' guy was just tryin' to earn a livin' back in those days.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:25 pm to PrimeTime Money
Uh. One man is clearly decades older than the other...
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:26 pm to PrimeTime Money
Photo 1 is different from the rest. Unless your eyes grow further apart as you age.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:32 pm to SquatchDawg
quote:I don’t think it’s a question whether or not the old black and white photos are the same person. It’s verified they are.
Photo 1 is different from the rest. Unless your eyes grow further apart as you age.
The only question is whether or not the old guy is the same guy as the guy in the black and white photos.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:37 pm to PrimeTime Money
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His name is John Demjanjuk.
Wasn't he Ukrainian?
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:37 pm to HeadSlash
Yes.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:41 pm to PrimeTime Money
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After it was all over I still think he was Ivan the Terrible, but it’s still a debate.
That's funny, I had the opposite take away at the end. It's been a while since I've seen it but I walked away thinking he for sure wasn't Ivan the terrible. It was proven he was still a PoS Officer that was bad to the prisoners, but he wasn't Ivan the Terrible. Maybe I will re watch it. It was really really good the first time.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 8:52 pm
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:41 pm to Pandy Fackler
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I'll defend that motherfricker.
frickin' guy was just tryin' to earn a livin' back in those days.
So was Elie Wiesel.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:47 pm to Sao
People nut up over Nazis yet we have politicians right now defending the Chinese Communists who killed 50 million people, same with the Soviet Union, its comical.
Communism 100 million murdered, Nazi stuff is banned on Ebay yet Communist shite isn't.....wonder why????
Communism 100 million murdered, Nazi stuff is banned on Ebay yet Communist shite isn't.....wonder why????
Posted on 4/22/20 at 7:52 pm to Barstools
quote:I just thought from the moment I saw the guy in the black and white photo that it was the same person. It’s just so obvious to me that he’s the same guy as the guy in the photo.
That's funny, I had the opposite take away at the end. It's been a while since I've seen it but I walked away thinking he for sure wasn't Ivan the terrible. It was proven he was still a PoS Officer that was bad tot he prisoners, but he wasn't Ivan the Terrible. Maybe I will re watch it. It was really realty good the first time.
Then add up all his inconsistencies to his story, and the fact that he was pointed out by several concentration camp survivors AND an SS guy.
Then new information comes out that other SS members after being interrogated after the war said that Ivan the Terrible’s last name was Marchenko. And then it’s revealed that this guy John Demjanjuk’s mother’s maiden name is Marchenko and he used it sometimes as an alias.
There are just too many coincidences, inconsistencies in his story, and the fact that he looks exactly like an older version of the guy in the old photos. I think it’s clearly him.
But yeah, it’s a really good documentary and I went back and forth a lot.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:09 pm to Strannix
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People nut up over Nazis yet we have politicians right now defending the Chinese Communists who killed 50 million people, same with the Soviet Union, its comical.
Communism 100 million murdered, Nazi stuff is banned on Ebay yet Communist shite isn't.....wonder why????
Agree w you. Will you join me in boycotting China and all related Chinese products? This includes crispy beef and crab rangoon by the way.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:10 pm to Sao
I only buy American products like Ford and LEGO
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:13 pm to PrimeTime Money
Sure
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:54 pm to PrimeTime Money
I just remember being swayed that there were 2 officers named Ivan that were bad to prisoners, one had the nick name Ivan the Terrible, the other was a diff Ivan that still was proven to do bad things at different camps. I think the inconsistencies are because he was lying to cover he was a death camp officer, not ITT. Either way, the POS is dead.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 4/22/20 at 8:57 pm to PrimeTime Money
Yes, I think that’s the same guy.
Posted on 4/22/20 at 9:04 pm to Sun God
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American products
quote:wut
LEGO
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