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re: In light of JFK doc release: Oswald was the lone assassin

Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:20 pm to
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:20 pm to
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quote:#1 If you believe in a conspiracy then you believe that Ruth Payne was involved. She had to be since she was Oswald's connection to get a job at the Book Depository. You also must believe that Roy Truly, the man who hired Oswald there, was involved. In 50 years there has never been any evidence that either has had any connections to the FBI, CIA, mafia, or any other group conspiracy theorists point the finger at. #2 You also have to believe that Jack Ruby, running late as it is, decided to risk missing Oswald all together when he stopped off at Western Union to wire one of his employee $25 to pay her rent like 3 minutes before he shot Oswald. You'd also have to believe that Oswald himself was involved in his own end as the only reason he hadn't been transported long before Ruby arrived at the police station was because he asked for a change of clothes. #3 The physical evidence overwhelmingly shows that all shots came from the 6th floor of the book depository. The infamous "magic bullet" presupposes that Kennedy and Connelly were seated on a level plane, but in reality we know that model Lincoln had a front seat that was sunken around 13 inches below the rear seat. When corrected the trajectory shows Lee Harvey Oswald was the only one who could have fired that shot. Oswald acted alone. Deal with it. Accept it. Move on with your life. Correct. If you read the book "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner all of this is made clear. Now I know what you're thinking, maybe another book says something else but Posner is unique. He started writing the book with the supposition that there was a conspiracy but by the time he had done all the research he had concluded just the opposite that Oswald acted alone. He gives footnotes to every fact he uses so you can verify any claim he makes.


Case Closed is the definitive book on the JFK assassination, imo. It's very excellently researched and documented.
Posted by Doomaflochie
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:23 pm to
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I'm glad you posted this. I have been telling my wife "I hope Draconian Sanctions lets us know his feelings on the JFK assassination."

Im glad you posted this. Pics?
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 5:25 pm
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:23 pm to
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Another thing about the theory that "Ruby killed Oswald to silence him" is that why then didn't someone kill Ruby to silence him?

Because Ruby was already dying of cancer and the mob promised to take care of his family for him if he'd do this one little favor for them. Or so the theory goes anyway.

After years of believing that some sort of conspiracy had to exist I've come around to believe in the official version for the most part. But the one thing that hasn't been explained is why Ruby killed Oswald.
Posted by BatonRougeBuckeye
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:25 pm to
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Lee Harvey was hired by Carlos Marcello who had the green light from Chicago.


If you study Oswald at all you would know this couldn't be true. Oswald was a psychopath who was well known to the FBI. The mob would never be involved with somebody so openly brazen.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:27 pm to
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The connection to Ruby has never been adequately explained IMO as to movitve. It is hard to believe he would just randomly shoot Oswald without some reason, other than it was convenient.


Jack Ruby was an unstable person with a hair-trigger temper and who was also a huge JFK/Jackie Kennedy fan. He was highly upset and angry by Kennedy's murder. He was well known by the Dallas police and so there was no reason for them to think his appearance at the Dallas police station was unusual. Ruby to his dying day always told the same story to his brother - that when he saw that smirk on Oswald's face, it just infuriated him.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 5:29 pm
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:35 pm to
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That house subcommittee determined that there was a second shooter.


That is true, and they based it mostly on acoustic evidence at the time that has since been discredited.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:43 pm to
Agree. Lee Oswald was a classic "wanna be' who was basically a failure in life. He desperately wanted to "be somebody." He also was a wife beater, hence the main reason that Marina finally left him. I've become convinced that had Oswald not murdered JFK, he would have eventually went off on someone else; he possibly may have been one of those nuts who shoot up a McDonald's or movie theatre.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33149 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:45 pm to
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I agree completely that he acted alone . I do not agree that he may not have been part of a larger conspiracy. Particularly a foreign conspiracy emanating from within the Soviet Union .



This is the correct answer
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:53 pm to
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Because Ruby was already dying of cancer and the mob promised to take care of his family for him if he'd do this one little favor for them. Or so the theory goes anyway.


Are we certain that Ruby actually had cancer in 1963? He lived until 1967. He was taken to the hospital that year suffering from the effects of pneumonia, and the doctors realized he also had cancer.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:59 pm to
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Oswald was the lone assassin


I admire your courage. Here's an upvote among the storm of down votes.

Posted by Wild Thang
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Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:01 pm to
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I'm glad you posted this. I have been telling my wife "I hope Draconian Sanctions lets us know his feelings on the JFK assassination."



Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:10 pm to
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He started writing the book with the supposition that there was a conspiracy but by the time he had done all the research he had concluded just the opposite that Oswald acted alone


He’s not the only one. A lot of people have followed similar paths.

The majority of people that think it was a conspiracy are ignorant of most of the facts. There are many just like him that discard one conspiracy after another once they educate themselves. They eventually come to the conclusion it was Oswald alone on the 6th floor.
Posted by goldenbadger08
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:12 pm to
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Oswald was the lone assassin
There are obviously varying degrees of conspiracy theories but to think he acted completely alone is just as ridiculous as the million other theories.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:33 pm to
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quote:Oswald was the lone assassinThere are obviously varying degrees of conspiracy theories but to think he acted completely alone is just as ridiculous as the million other theories.


Not really. Actually, when one objectively weighs the evidence and known facts of the JFK assassination, it only leads to the conclusion that Oswald acted alone.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 6:34 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78073 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:36 pm to
I have to agree with you. Though, someone of interest might have put him up to it and not merely his leftist views.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18702 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:40 pm to
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Another thing about the theory that "Ruby killed Oswald to silence him" is that why then didn't someone kill Ruby to silence him?



Why would someone need to kill Ruby? Ruby could have just been some guy who was given a sum of money (or other benefits) in exchange for killing Oswald. When Ruby killed Oswald he didn't absorb all of his memories or something.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:43 pm to
It was just one man shooting another man. Albeit it was the President, but I just don't understand how so many refuse to believe that this could happen in 1963 without it being a part of some massive conspiracy. How many people have tried to kill the President over the years? Quite a few. The Secret Service has stepped up their game since, but in 1963, there clearly were some lax policies of which Oswald exploited.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16848 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:53 pm to
Why was the back of JFK's head blown out if the shot came from behind?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:55 pm to
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Why would someone need to kill Ruby? Ruby could have just been some guy who was given a sum of money (or other benefits) in exchange for killing Oswald. When Ruby killed Oswald he didn't absorb all of his memories or something.


When Ruby's actions and their timeline before shooting Oswald are considered it is obvious that him getting there in time to see and shoot Oswald was just random chance. If he had been part of larger a conspiracy he would not have stopped to wire money and would have made sure he was in position to shoot Oswald
Posted by LCA131
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 6:55 pm to
I firmly believe that Oswald was the lone shooter. That does NOT discount many conspiracy theories. He could have done it on his own or been put up to it.

Or one of the other shooters, from the GK, the storm sewer, or the overpass just ahead could have been the leader.

It was probably LBJ, or Castro. Maybe the CIA.

That is my definitive answer.

Cheers.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 6:56 pm
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