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In light of JFK doc release: Oswald was the lone assassin
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:36 pm
#1 If you believe in a conspiracy then you believe that Ruth Payne was involved. She had to be since she was Oswald's connection to get a job at the Book Depository. You also must believe that Roy Truly, the man who hired Oswald there, was involved. In 50 years there has never been any evidence that either has had any connections to the FBI, CIA, mafia, or any other group conspiracy theorists point the finger at.
#2 You also have to believe that Jack Ruby, running late as it is, decided to risk missing Oswald all together when he stopped off at Western Union to wire one of his employee $25 to pay her rent like 3 minutes before he shot Oswald. You'd also have to believe that Oswald himself was involved in his own end as the only reason he hadn't been transported long before Ruby arrived at the police station was because he asked for a change of clothes.
#3 The physical evidence overwhelmingly shows that all shots came from the 6th floor of the book depository. The infamous "magic bullet" presupposes that Kennedy and Connelly were seated on a level plane, but in reality we know that model Lincoln had a front seat that was sunken around 13 inches below the rear seat. When corrected the trajectory shows Lee Harvey Oswald was the only one who could have fired that shot.
Oswald acted alone. Deal with it. Accept it. Move on with your life.
#2 You also have to believe that Jack Ruby, running late as it is, decided to risk missing Oswald all together when he stopped off at Western Union to wire one of his employee $25 to pay her rent like 3 minutes before he shot Oswald. You'd also have to believe that Oswald himself was involved in his own end as the only reason he hadn't been transported long before Ruby arrived at the police station was because he asked for a change of clothes.
#3 The physical evidence overwhelmingly shows that all shots came from the 6th floor of the book depository. The infamous "magic bullet" presupposes that Kennedy and Connelly were seated on a level plane, but in reality we know that model Lincoln had a front seat that was sunken around 13 inches below the rear seat. When corrected the trajectory shows Lee Harvey Oswald was the only one who could have fired that shot.
Oswald acted alone. Deal with it. Accept it. Move on with your life.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 4:37 pm
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:40 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Oswald acted alone.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:41 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I'm glad you posted this. I have been telling my wife "I hope Draconian Sanctions lets us know his feelings on the JFK assassination."
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:41 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Is this the definitive JFK assasination thread?
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:41 pm to ronk
Not feelings, facts
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:42 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:42 pm to Draconian Sanctions
The connection to Ruby has never been adequately explained IMO as to movitve. It is hard to believe he would just randomly shot Oswald without some reason, other than it was convenient.
This post was edited on 10/28/17 at 5:05 am
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:42 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Silly rabbit, God Emeror Trump already told us that Rafael Cruz was in on it.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:45 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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#1 If you believe in a conspiracy then you believe that Ruth Payne was involved. She had to be since she was Oswald's connection to get a job at the Book Depository. You also must believe that Roy Truly, the man who hired Oswald there, was involved. In 50 years there has never been any evidence that either has had any connections to the FBI, CIA, mafia, or any other group conspiracy theorists point the finger at.
#2 You also have to believe that Jack Ruby, running late as it is, decided to risk missing Oswald all together when he stopped off at Western Union to wire one of his employee $25 to pay her rent like 3 minutes before he shot Oswald. You'd also have to believe that Oswald himself was involved in his own end as the only reason he hadn't been transported long before Ruby arrived at the police station was because he asked for a change of clothes.
#3 The physical evidence overwhelmingly shows that all shots came from the 6th floor of the book depository. The infamous "magic bullet" presupposes that Kennedy and Connelly were seated on a level plane, but in reality we know that model Lincoln had a front seat that was sunken around 13 inches below the rear seat. When corrected the trajectory shows Lee Harvey Oswald was the only one who could have fired that shot.
Oswald acted alone. Deal with it. Accept it. Move on with your life.
Correct. If you read the book "Case Closed" by Gerald Posner all of this is made clear. Now I know what you're thinking, maybe another book says something else but Posner is unique. He started writing the book with the supposition that there was a conspiracy but by the time he had done all the research he had concluded just the opposite that Oswald acted alone. He gives footnotes to every fact he uses so you can verify any claim he makes.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:45 pm to ronk
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:50 pm to TDcline
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Posted on 10/27/17 at 4:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I agree completely that he acted alone . I do not agree that he may not have been part of a larger conspiracy. Particularly a foreign conspiracy emanating from within the Soviet Union .
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:07 pm to Draconian Sanctions
+ 1
Great points. It's nice to find someone on TD who can discuss the JFK assassination intelligently. Other conspiracy myths are that: Oswald was a terrible shot (he qualified Sharpshooter in USMC); the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle was no good (was good enough for the Italian Army in WWII); and that the shot from the 6th floor of the book depository was impossible (actually, it was pretty easy, considering Oswald had a scoped rifle which he had practiced with extensively, and Kennedy's limousine was moving very slowly almost directly away in Oswald's line-of-sight).
Have an up-vote on me.
Great points. It's nice to find someone on TD who can discuss the JFK assassination intelligently. Other conspiracy myths are that: Oswald was a terrible shot (he qualified Sharpshooter in USMC); the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle was no good (was good enough for the Italian Army in WWII); and that the shot from the 6th floor of the book depository was impossible (actually, it was pretty easy, considering Oswald had a scoped rifle which he had practiced with extensively, and Kennedy's limousine was moving very slowly almost directly away in Oswald's line-of-sight).
Have an up-vote on me.
This post was edited on 10/27/17 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:10 pm to TigersFan64
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+ 1
Great points. It's nice to find someone on TD who can discuss the JFK assassination intelligently. Other conspiracy myths are that: Oswald was a terrible shot (he qualified Sharpshooter in USMC); the Mannlicher-Carcano rifle was no good (was good enough for the Italian Army in WWII); and that the shot from the 6th floor of the book depository was impossible (actually, it was pretty easy, considering Oswald had a scoped rifle which he had practiced with extensively, and Kennedy's limousine was moving very slowly almost directly away in Oswald's line-of-sight).
Have an up-vote on me.
Agree. As an assassination buff myself I am enjoying the conversations. To add to what you had said, consider also that Oswalds rating from his USMC days also scored him high when firing from a seated position. He was in the seated position when shooting Kennedy and had the rifle resting on boxes of books so that would increase his accuracy.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:11 pm to Draconian Sanctions
You didn't know this without the release of these documents?
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:12 pm to Lsupimp
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I agree completely that he acted alone
Agreed.
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Particularly a foreign conspiracy emanating from within the Soviet Union .
The KGB had bugged Lee Oswald's and Marina's apartment while he lived in the Soviet Union, since they took it for granted at first that he was a CIA plant. After watching and listening to his conversations for an extended period of time, the KGB realized that he was a mentally unstable kook and determined that even the CIA would have nothing to do with him.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:16 pm to BatonRougeBuckeye
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To add to what you had said, consider also that Oswalds rating from his USMC days also scored him high when firing from a seated position. He was in the seated position when shooting Kennedy and had the rifle resting on boxes of books so that would increase his accuracy.
Great point. I had forgotten that.
Another thing about the theory that "Ruby killed Oswald to silence him" is that why then didn't someone kill Ruby to silence him?
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:18 pm to TigersFan64
Yeah . It’s more likely that he was trying to “ prove” his Revolutionary bona fides to the Soviets and Fellow Travellers who had repeatedly rebuffed and embarrassed him .
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:18 pm to Draconian Sanctions
It has been years since I read about it, but there was a house subcommittee on assassinations in the 1970s. It was the last word on the Kennedy assassination from the government, not the Warren report. That house subcommittee determined that there was a second shooter.
Posted on 10/27/17 at 5:19 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Lee Harvey was hired by Carlos Marcello who had the green light from Chicago.
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