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re: In honor the Army-Navy game, my Mt. Rushmore of the greatest field commanders...
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:06 pm to Strannix
Posted on 12/14/24 at 4:06 pm to Strannix
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Lol what did Schwarzkopf do? Beat Iraq?
Yes. An army that, at the time, was one of the largest in the world and had years of combat experience courtesy of the Iran-Iraq War. Meanwhile, the U.S. military hadn't seen large scale combat operations since Vietnam. In hindsight it turned out they (the Iraqis) were poorly led, their morale was low, and their Soviet-era technology was not up to the task.
This post was edited on 12/14/24 at 4:07 pm
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Posted on 12/14/24 at 5:04 pm to RollTide1987
William Tecumseh Sherman
Posted on 12/14/24 at 6:28 pm to RollTide1987
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U.S. Navy
George Dewey
Raymond Spruance
Marc Mitscher
Richmond Turner
I put John Paul Jones on that list for me.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 6:30 pm to RollTide1987
Bro, George Washington didn't make your list?
Posted on 12/14/24 at 6:37 pm to boomtown143
I've read that Bradley was massively overrated as well.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 6:55 pm to boomtown143
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Bro, George Washington didn't make your list?
George Washington wasn't around in the 20th century.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 7:26 pm to TT9
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MacArthur
frick no
Posted on 12/14/24 at 7:27 pm to RollTide1987
USMC don’t get any love from you?
Posted on 12/14/24 at 7:31 pm to RollTide1987
The post 1945 track record for the vast majority of them is laughable. L after L after L.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 7:38 pm to RollTide1987
Omar Bradley. Commanded Twelfth Army Group, the largest U.S. Army formation to ever take the field.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 7:43 pm to JackieTreehorn
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The post 1945 track record for the vast majority of them is laughable. L after L after L.
What military losses have we taken?
Posted on 12/14/24 at 7:59 pm to RollTide1987
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Well I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but only two guys on your original list are carved into Stone Mountain.
You don’t say? Wow…thanks for that fresh news flash.
You and Einstein the mathematician are obvious blowhards, Roll your tide down the road.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 8:27 pm to LeeeroyJenkins
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Wow…thanks for that fresh news flash.
I do what I can. I could only assume from your original list that you were retarded.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 8:27 pm to grizzlylongcut
North Korea still in business. Vietnam is communist. Taliban runs Afghanistan. All after the U.S. tucked tail and ran. Huge L’s. So 1-3 in major wars since ww2. Proof is in the pudding.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 8:32 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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Omar Bradley.
Not in love with the guy. He ignored Patton's advice to move quickly to capture Falaise and cut off the German retreat out of Normandy. As a result, some 50,000 Germans escaped to live and fight another day. Had Bradley unleashed Patton in the summer of 1944, it's likely the Germans have a harder time defending the Netherlands and Germany in the autumn. It most likely also prevents Hitler from launching his winter offensive through the Ardennes that December.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 8:34 pm to JackieTreehorn
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North Korea still in business. Vietnam is communist. Taliban runs Afghanistan. All after the U.S. tucked tail and ran. Huge L’s. So 1-3 in major wars since ww2. Proof is in the pudding.
How many of those were actual military losses though?
Posted on 12/14/24 at 9:10 pm to JackieTreehorn
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So 1-3 in major wars since ww2. Proof is in the pudding.
I would rate only Korea as a "major war" since World War II and that was a draw. Though I suppose you could rate it as a win considering North Korea started the conflict with the intent of conquering and absorbing South Korea.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 9:19 pm to LeeeroyJenkins
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David Hackworth
First time ever hearing about Hack was on Jocko Podcast and figured Jocko was just pushing his name out there because he was a fanboy of Hack’s badassedness, but it turns out he was really a really good and outside the box, effective leader. I think the reason he doesn’t get promoted more in popularity is because he never made it up to the upper echelons of army leadership, plus those top-tier peeps didn’t like the way he bucked the system to get stuff done.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 9:26 pm to RollTide1987
This list is vapid and irrelevant without mention of Chesty Puller.
Posted on 12/14/24 at 9:42 pm to Havoc
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This list is vapid and irrelevant without mention of Chesty Puller.
Chesty Puller was a solid combat leader but he never commanded anything greater than a division and that was here in the States.
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