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In hindsight was it a mistake for the US to ally with the Soviet Union during WW2.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 2/25/23 at 1:59 pm
With the Cold War and iron curtain and even today the us and Russia relations are really bad. should the us have just let Germany and Soviets fight each other or was it just more important to defeat Germany as fast as possible?
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Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:00 pm to bdavids09
Yeah we should have just let the world end and not become a super power
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:01 pm to bdavids09
Lol
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:03 pm to bdavids09
We should totally have let Nazi Germany invade and occupy most of Europe. And exterminate even more people. Totes.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:04 pm to bdavids09
The mistake was not taking out Stalin after ww2
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:16 pm to bdavids09
Should have let Patton take care of them in WW2.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:18 pm to bdavids09
We were fighting Hitler. Literally Hitler.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:21 pm to bdavids09
The OT is probably not the best place for a serious discussion of historical revisionism.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:25 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
You act like that would have been easy. The Red Army was a force to be reckoned with and was willing to sustain unlimited casualties.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:27 pm to BluegrassBelle
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We should totally have let Nazi Germany invade and occupy most of Europe. And exterminate even more people. Totes.
Yeah! Can you believe!?
Instead we let Soviet Russia invade and occupy most of Eastern Europe and exterminate even more people.
Totes.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:36 pm to bdavids09
Germany controlled nearly all of Europe and had the USSR on the ropes. They were the bigger threat at the time. If Germany wins, we're locked into a cold war with a much more capable adversary. There's a good alternate history novel called Fatherland which explores this premise.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:39 pm to bdavids09
Patton said we need to keep going through Berlin to Moscow….
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:41 pm to tigeraddict
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Patton said we need to keep going through Berlin to Moscow….
That and his opinion of the liberated Jews are what caused his assassination. He also didn't de-Nazify the local governments he was in charge of as much as some others would have liked.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:43 pm to tigeraddict
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Patton said we need to keep going through Berlin to Moscow…
Easy to say when it's not your sons on the frontlines of the slaughter.
We'd have needed more A-bombs to force Russia to submit.
More senseless slaughter
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:47 pm to fr33manator
It’s just nonsensical… the US was supplying the red army through lend lease… we’re then gonna turn around and push on east fighting against our own equipment and munitions?… it’s silly.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:56 pm to bdavids09
Hindsight is always 20/20.
While there were politicians who might have been half-serious when they expressed a desire to continue passed Berlin and on toward Moscow, there wasn't anyone within the Allied high command who ever entertained serious inclinations to do such a thing. By May 1945 the citizens of the United States and those of her allies were tired of war. There would have been no justifying to them an invasion of Soviet territory right after the surrender of Nazi Germany.
While there were politicians who might have been half-serious when they expressed a desire to continue passed Berlin and on toward Moscow, there wasn't anyone within the Allied high command who ever entertained serious inclinations to do such a thing. By May 1945 the citizens of the United States and those of her allies were tired of war. There would have been no justifying to them an invasion of Soviet territory right after the surrender of Nazi Germany.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 2:56 pm to bdavids09
The take: the world would be a better place with Nazi Germany as a global super power
Posted on 2/25/23 at 3:06 pm to lowspark12
Yeah there was a near mutiny over plans to send troops from Europe directly to the Pacific. In those guys minds, and the minds of their families, they had done what they were asked to do and it was time to come home.
Posted on 2/25/23 at 3:07 pm to EmperorGout
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The take: the world would be a better place with Nazi Germany as a global super power
Yeah things were going swimmingly there during the Nazi regime.
This post was edited on 2/25/23 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 2/25/23 at 3:07 pm to bdavids09
That Russia/Ukraine thread is doing a real number on people’s brains around here. Guess who did most of the heavy lifting to defeat the Nazis?
“Thanks for your help. Now die.”
“Thanks for your help. Now die.”
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