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re: In Africa, while people are protesting how African-Americans are being treated in America,

Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:23 pm to
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There are far more instances than what is shared on a message board.

Ok, like I said, show me the data.

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I have had plenty of white males and females tell me personally that they have been given a pass.

That's not any sort of data I can use to assess your claim. "I know some people" isn't an acceptable variable when it comes to claiming a nationwide issue. Like I said, you were cheated by your alleged stats professors.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:26 pm to
Could say many different things

I mean I read an article posted on here recently that the biggest hurdle between black males and employment is a drug screen
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:29 pm to
Well if that is the case, why doesn't it affect whites. I mean if drug use is similar between the two percentage wise there should be a whole lot more unemployable whites when you look at the numbers.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:31 pm to
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Despite evidence of similar rates of using and selling illegal drugs


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Whites were about 45 percent more likely than blacks to sell drugs in 1980, according to an analysis of the National Longitudinal Survey of Youth by economist Robert Fairlie. This was consistent with a 1989 survey of youth in Boston. My own analysis of data from the 2012 National Survey on Drug Use and Health shows that 6.6 percent of white adolescents and young adults (aged 12 to 25) sold drugs, compared to just 5.0 percent of blacks (a 32 percent difference).


If this is what they are basing your claim on,

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LINK


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This partly reflects racial differences in the drug markets in black and white communities. In poor black neighborhoods, drugs tend to be sold outdoors, in the open. In white neighborhoods, by contrast, drug transactions typically happen indoors, often between friends and acquaintances. If you sell drugs outside, you're much more likely to get caught.


Pretty much everyone who has used drugs has sold at some point. If you're selling a few pills out of your living room you're not going to be caught.

Most whites who deal aren't career drug dealers
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:32 pm to
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That's not any sort of data I can use to assess your claim. "I know some people" isn't an acceptable variable when it comes to claiming a nationwide issue. Like I said, you were cheated by your alleged stats professors.
Well take a look at the information I provided. Per 100k of users, whites are arrested at a rate of half of what blacks are. Why is that? Clearly those officers are encountering more whites than they are blacks due to the sheer number of whites in this country. So why are blacks arrested more frequently?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:34 pm to
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So why are blacks arrested more frequently?


Listed above.

And 5% of black folks in a survey claimed to be dealers..
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139231 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:36 pm to
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So why are blacks arrested more frequently?


I've told you that they are far more reckless with their possession of drugs, i.e. walking around with a dime or a blunt in their pocket. Combine that with the fact that many impoverished and high crime areas have large minority populations, they'll be far more likely to make contact with police (cops are more prevalent where the crime is taking place).
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:36 pm to
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My own analysis of data from the 2012 National Survey on Drug Use and Health shows that 6.6 percent of white adolescents and young adults (aged 12 to 25) sold drugs, compared to just 5.0 percent of blacks (a 32 percent difference).
What does that tell you exactly? It tells me that there are far more whites selling drugs.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:36 pm to
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there should be a whole lot more unemployable whites when you look at the numbers.


There are, it's increasing. There's a growing subculture of whites who use and support their habit by criminal activity

Unemployability among natives is probably over 50%
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:36 pm to
Drug use as a whole is a class thing imo. Lower income areas do more drugs. More blacks are in lower income areas
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
58288 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:38 pm to
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If you wanted to know you'd seek the information. It isn't hard. It is out there to be consumed.


LAZY.... When debating someone on a subject matter you claim you know something about, retorting with "google it yourself" does not give credence to your credibility, and makes you look foolish. If you have evidence, provide the link. If not, then i'd suggest being quiet until you find your evidence.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:43 pm to
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What does that tell you exactly? It tells me that there are far more whites selling drugs.


You're a fool if you believe this self reported numbers and the reasons were clearly stated in the article and you willingly ignored it.

This information is literally the basis of your negative yet you leave the most important part
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:45 pm to
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I've told you that they are far more reckless with their possession of drugs, i.e. walking around with a dime or a blunt in their pocket.


Article clearly stated such.

Blacks deal on the street, whites in their home to friends and acquaintances.

There's a huge difference between selling a pill to friends and selling weed on the street to strangers.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 2:47 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:46 pm to
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What does that tell you exactly? It tells me that there are far more whites selling drugs.



You can't be serious.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:48 pm to
Supply and demand
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24301 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:48 pm to
So it is okay for whites because they deal in the confines of their homes. Got it.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:51 pm to
Lots of triggered white guys ITT.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:52 pm to
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So it is okay for whites because they deal in the confines of their homes. Got it.


You're pretty stupid if that was your conclusion

I'll simplify it for you. You're odds of being caught are much greater doing street level deals with strangers than selling in the confines of your own home to people you know
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:54 pm to
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it is okay for whites because they deal in the confines of their homes. Got it.


Even you know you're being disingenuous right now
Posted by bigrob385series
B. Aura
Member since May 2014
2636 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:55 pm to
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Crazy part is I don't see this nearly as much on a micro, day to day level as media/social media portrayals would lead one to believe. My life/relationships with white and black folks have remained pretty much the same over the years.
this...a lot of it i blame on social and mainstream media.
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