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In a Shutdown, IRS Will Take Your Money, but Give No Refunds
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:40 am
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:40 am
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WASHINGTON—A prolonged government shutdown would likely delay billions of dollars in income-tax refunds.
The Internal Revenue Service is one of the agencies that now lacks funding, and the U.S. tax collector has been operating with about 1 in 8 employees under the shutdown plan it uses outside the tax-filing season.
During a shutdown, the IRS can continue activities that protect government property, and the agency may bring in more workers soon to prepare for the income-tax filing season. Even during a shutdown, the agency still processes some tax returns that include payments, keeps computer systems running and continues criminal investigations. But the IRS generally doesn’t conduct audits, respond to taxpayer questions outside the filing season or—brace yourself—pay refunds.
A shutdown that gets resolved within a few weeks would have little ultimate effect on taxpayers, but lawmakers have made little or no movement toward a deal. That stalemate raises the prospect of an unprecedented extended closure during the individual income-tax filing season, which typically starts in mid-to-late January. The IRS hasn’t announced a start date yet for the 2019 filing season, the first under the tax law that Congress passed in 2017.
“We’re in uncharted territory as each day gets longer,” said Mark Steber, chief tax officer at Jackson Hewitt Tax Service Inc.
If the shutdown drags on, early filers won’t receive the refunds they’re expecting, a gap that could put pressure on congressional negotiators and President Trump to reach a deal.
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By Feb. 2, 2018, the IRS had paid $12.6 billion in refunds to more than six million households. By Feb. 16, the IRS had paid $101.2 billion to nearly 32 million households. And by March 30, the IRS had paid $212 billion to 73 million households.
For many Americans, the tax refund is the single largest financial event of the year, and the people who tend to file early in the season are taxpayers who count on large refunds to pay down debt, catch up on bills or make major purchases. Those are disproportionately low-income households that benefit from the earned-income tax credit and other provisions that give them no income-tax liability or a net benefit from the income-tax system.
In turn, retailers count on those households spending their refunds in February. People who tend to owe additional taxes typically wait until near the mid-April deadline.
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In the meantime, taxpayers may face more difficulty getting answers out of the IRS because the agency doesn’t respond to taxpayer questions outside the filing season. The government may add people back to staff its toll-free phone lines once filing season starts, though it hasn’t provided details yet.
“The commissioner’s going to have to make a call: What does this mean for the beginning of the filing season?” said Mark Mazur, who was the top Treasury tax-policy official under President Barack Obama.
Don't put those deposits on that condo in Destin yet, baws.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:41 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Funny how that works huh
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:41 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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But the IRS generally doesn’t conduct audits,
I’m good with it
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:42 am to Mingo Was His NameO
This is exactly why I never have my taxes setup for a big refund. I'd prefer to be even or owe some.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:43 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Most of the people filing now are Hillary voters anyway
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:43 am to jimbeam
So they will get to keep my money longer with ZERO penalty. fricking crooks
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:43 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Scare tactics for poors by Democrats. If you get a large refund from IRS you’re doing it all wrong anyways. Goal is to have them draw enough out to break close to even at tax time. Otherwise you’re giving the government a loan interest free each year.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:44 am to upgrayedd
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This is exactly why I never have my taxes setup for a big refund. I'd prefer to be even or owe some.
This guy gets it!
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:44 am to Michael Hayes
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Most of the people filing now are Hillary voters anyway
He's right you know
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:44 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Can I assess late fees on non-payment?
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:45 am to TechDawg2007
Same shite happened with the state a few years back. JBE decided he was going to keep everyone's money for another 4-6 months
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:46 am to upgrayedd
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This is exactly why I never have my taxes setup for a big refund. I'd prefer to be even or owe some.
All those people are doing is giving the government an interest free loan.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:46 am to Displaced
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Can I assess late fees on non-payment?
I'm not sure how it works with the shutdown, but generally, yes. There is a stated interest rate in each state and a statute in which they have X amount of time before interest starts accruing. Not sure exactly how it works for federal income tax, though.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:47 am to Mingo Was His NameO
I’m skeptical that issuing refunds takes a lot of work from actual human IRS employees.
However, I do expect a refund and this sucks. This seems to worsen Trumps position, as Democrats will absolutely use this to full effect.
However, I do expect a refund and this sucks. This seems to worsen Trumps position, as Democrats will absolutely use this to full effect.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:47 am to Mingo Was His NameO
It doesn’t affect me but a lot of my employees are pissed.
This is how you get more Dem voters. Republicans (I am one) aren’t doing themselves any favors with this wall bs.
This is how you get more Dem voters. Republicans (I am one) aren’t doing themselves any favors with this wall bs.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:49 am to Passing Wind
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Otherwise you’re giving the government a loan interest free each year.
And with today’s rates you’re passing up tens of dollars
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:49 am to uway
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I’m skeptical that issuing refunds takes a lot of work from actual human IRS employees.
Depends on your return, and even if it's simple it can be randomly selected for human review
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:49 am to uway
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However, I do expect a refund and this sucks. This seems to worsen Trumps position, as Democrats will absolutely use this to full effect.
They'll definitely try to exploit it.
Although, you could spin this as a "just another example of why we shouldn't be giving the government more power over our personal financial wellbeing" argument
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:49 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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IRS Will Take Your Money, but Give No Refunds
It's not that big of a deal to those of us who know how to play the system. I usually get between 10-15k back. I can take my statement to a loan place and they'll give me 8-10k right away. So in the long run the shutdown doesn't even really affect me.
Posted on 1/4/19 at 9:50 am to Mingo Was His NameO
Abolish IRS FAIR TAX
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