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re: Imagine seeing this outside your window on an airplane
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:23 pm to SEC. 593
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:23 pm to SEC. 593
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What's the regulation distance required? Whatever the answer my anxiety won't care
Since it is based on flying with one engine (slower than w/2) it is designated by time. The 777 can fly 180 minutes minutes on one engine and up to 207 minutes in special circumstances.
So a flight plan across even a remote stretch of water wouldn’t have the plane more than 180 minutes from a suitable diversion.
Edit: I believe some 777s are rated up to 240 minutes.
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 9:25 pm
Posted on 2/20/21 at 11:28 pm to real turf fan
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Second, the Daily Mail has a photo of the luckiest pick up truck in Bloomfield Colorado
Pickup truck not so lucky...
Worldstar
Posted on 2/21/21 at 12:31 pm to Rendevoustavern
It's so hard to open a door that opens out in flight. Maybe she did it intentionally?
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:02 pm to flyingtexastiger
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. Aviation regulations prevent commercial airlines from flying overwater routes that take you too far from an adequate emergency landing site.
The flight path between California and Hawaii is the longest stretch in the world without access to emergency landing. It's all Pacific Ocean out there.
It's a good thing this engine blowout happened when it did. This flight was headed to Hawaii and the half way point of that route is the worst possible place to have an engine failure or other mechanical problem.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:04 pm to AUFANATL
It still complies with ETOPS requirements
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:10 pm to OMLandshark
I'm curious about something here. Don't they have way to turn off fuel flow to a damaged engine?
Could that video be before the pilots realized it was burning? I don't see how it was making usable thrust.
Could that video be before the pilots realized it was burning? I don't see how it was making usable thrust.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:23 pm to OMLandshark
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Imagine seeing this outside your window on an airplane
I’m on a Boeing as I type this... Could have been me.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:48 pm to OMLandshark
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This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:50 pm to OMLandshark
I was in this exact situation in probably 1990 or so. Flying back from somewhere on the east coast to Alexandria.
Emergency landed in Birmingham. My mom will never get on another plane. I’ve flown quite a few times. I figure I have the best luck now since I’ve already had a bad experience flying.
Emergency landed in Birmingham. My mom will never get on another plane. I’ve flown quite a few times. I figure I have the best luck now since I’ve already had a bad experience flying.
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:53 pm to flyingtexastiger
I'm pretty sure they're is a spot on this particular route this plane was flying that is nearly 1000 NM to the nearest landing strip.
It's like 2400 miles from LAX to HNL
It's like 2400 miles from LAX to HNL
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:55 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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There's a reason there is more than one engine.
The pilot announced that the final engine had failed.
The aggy stood up and yelled "Oh, so now we're going to be FOUR hours late!"
Posted on 2/21/21 at 2:04 pm to ShermanTxTiger
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This is my greatest fear. Engine failure over the Pacific Ocean.
At least the water will put out the fire.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:06 pm to Tempratt
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Don't they have way to turn off fuel flow to a damaged engine?
There is a fuel cutoff switch. There’s also a fire suppression system but when it has been ripped off there isn’t much you can do.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:25 pm to RedFoxx
That wouldn't bother me too much if the plane is still flying.
Now, if the engine is on fire, and we are in a dive, well, that's different.
Now, if the engine is on fire, and we are in a dive, well, that's different.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 4:17 pm to RedFoxx
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Since it is based on flying with one engine (slower than w/2) it is designated by time. The 777 can fly 180 minutes minutes on one engine and up to 207 minutes in special circumstances.
So a flight plan across even a remote stretch of water wouldn’t have the plane more than 180 minutes from a suitable diversion.
Edit: I believe some 777s are rated up to 240 minutes.
Airlines can pay for up to ETOPS 330 on the 777 and 787. That's a long 5.5 hours single engine if an engine failed at the most remote point. But they're not going to pay for that certification unless they absolutely need it, like Air New Zealand flying its 777s to South America. Anything longer than ETOPS 240 is really only useful in the southern hemisphere.
Airbus currently has the longest ETOPS rating available, up to ETOPS 370 on the A350.
United set a record on one of its 772ERs in 2003 when it had to shut down an engine on an AKL-LAX flight and divert to Hawaii. It flew for 192 minutes on one engine.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 4:19 pm to OMLandshark
I’d take my mask off at least and tell everybody on the plane to frick off
Posted on 2/21/21 at 4:20 pm to OMLandshark
Was it really “on fire”? Or did the casing just get torn off and the combustion was visible?
Posted on 2/21/21 at 5:30 pm to fr33manator
That pic is of a pure turbojet engine. The engines on most modern commercial aircraft are high bypass turbofans.
Yes the casing was torn off, but the fuel and hydraulics are shut off to it also. Not sure why it was still burning.
Yes the casing was torn off, but the fuel and hydraulics are shut off to it also. Not sure why it was still burning.
This post was edited on 2/21/21 at 5:31 pm
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