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re: Imagine getting laid off and finding out where your tax dollars go...

Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:23 am to
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7123 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:23 am to
so far there's 40 downvotes. Didn't realize there were so many politicians on the OT.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83104 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:24 am to
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Imagine you gave money to the GOP and they spent it on 300k copies of Don Jr's book "he wrote"


Well I don’t go to jail for refusing to pay the GOP
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83104 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:26 am to
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Ukraine, by Hunter Biden's laptop, by CRT or gun control legislation.


Thanks for reminding us of more reasons your president is a disaster
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295998 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:26 am to
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Every major population center in the Pacific Northwest, outside of maybe Anchorage, Alaska (maybe),


Juneau is Democrat, just not progressive.

Alaskan Democrats are nothing like the figs in Seattle or Portland.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295998 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:27 am to
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Imagine complaining about unemployment without knowing anything about it.


What did he miss?

Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83104 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:30 am to
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Juneau is Democrat, just not progressive.


Don’t trust them. The national party is prog. Blue dog democrats are a dying breed
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36650 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:30 am to
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Right. We are the worlds bully. We cannot let someone else fill that role.

The Neocon dream.



is it?im anything but a neocon...you should know this, we have only discussed it on here for 15+ years

but i happen to take putin at his word in that the old russia empire land, he beleives is rightfully Russias....many of those countries are NATO

i would rather supply ukraine with weapons(most of which we were phasing out anyways or are from storage) and spill their blood to stop the advance then sit around and do nothing until russia attacks nato


do i think trump would have stopped this....prolly but he swung a big stick and people were scared of him, same with reagen....but in general russia does what the frick it wants when it feels like the US is weak or has someone weak in the WH.

ill be honest...i would have agreed with Putins assessment that biden was weak and wouldnt do anything...I was wrong and so was putin.

bottomline is though, we have spent less than 10% of our annual defense budget and have destroyed almost 60% of Russias conventional military capability

we have stopped the advance, gotten most(frick you germany and hungry) of the Nato members to start upping defense spending

we have destroyed Russians economy

we have expanded nato

we have stopped russian arm deals because countries see they are dog shite machines which will lead to buying from us.

now fi you wanna talk abotu ukraine being a complete and utter corrupt shithole....i agree. russia just happens to be just as bad. both are shitholes

this isnt about ukraine imo, this about stopping the russians from feeling like they can do whatever they want

the tactic many of you want to try is the same one used by chamberlin and others with hitler....it didnt work then and it wont work now.

go watch Russian TV and tell me you think they would just stop they are calling for a march to berlin daily on there
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36650 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:33 am to
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Every year, the United States sends billions of dollars in aid—and much more than any other country—to beneficiaries around the world in pursuit of its security, economic, and humanitarian interests.

Heading into 2022, U.S. foreign assistance was driven by various priorities of the Biden administration, including combating climate change, responding to the COVID-19 pandemic, and countering authoritarianism. But since Russia’s invasion in February, Ukraine has become far and away the top recipient of U.S. foreign aid. It’s the first time that a European country has held the top spot since the Harry S. Truman administration directed vast sums into rebuilding the continent through the Marshall Plan after World War II.

In 2022, the Biden administration and the U.S. Congress have directed nearly $50 billion in assistance to Ukraine, which includes humanitarian, financial, and military support, according to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German research institute. The historic sums are helping a broad set of Ukrainian people and institutions, including refugees, law enforcement, and independent radio broadcasters, though most of the aid has been military-related. Dozens of other countries, including most members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the European Union, are also providing large aid packages to Ukraine.



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Chromdome35






doesnt even inlcude the trillion in frozen assest from russia we will seize

doesnt account for the savings in american lives vs ukrainian lives

doesnt account for the money that will be made from arm sales now and in the future for showing that Russian arms are dog shite

doesnt account for the money made from O&G sales and future sales
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135864 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:35 am to
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Your government doesn't care about you


Not completely true. They want what you have.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
7928 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:36 am to
More...

Notice that the EU has provided much more financial assistance than the US.


Based on GDP we are ranked 9th in aid to Ukraine


Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:38 am to
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its Kennedynomics, not Reaganomics.

Well, there's some bullshite.

Federal debt:


Compensation vs productivity:


quote:

Of course, you'd have to criticize your royalty.

You are just totally fricking clueless.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7123 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:38 am to
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this isnt about ukraine imo, this about stopping the russians from feeling like they can do whatever they want


This might be about 1% of the reasoning for us being involved.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
36650 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:40 am to
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This might be about 1% of the reasoning for us being involved.



so let me guess we are involved

-protect biolabs??

-protect the big guy and his corruption???

-military industrial complex told us too(this one i can actually sort of beleive)???
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
15655 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:40 am to
Unemployment is taxpayer funded?
Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
49919 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:40 am to
We could have a really nice discussion most likely but since it’s the OT I’ll just say NBHNC
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
58954 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:40 am to
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Right. We are the worlds bully. We cannot let someone else fill that role.
this but unironically. can't believe you people still buy into 2008 ron paul isolationist agitprop
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295998 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:42 am to
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this but unironically. can't believe you people still buy into 2008 ron paul isolationist agitprop


I can believe you have no clue wtf you're talking about.

Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
49919 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:44 am to
Ron Paul agitprop is as effective as our tax dollars being spent on Ukraine
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
40911 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:47 am to
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running roughshod over a sovereign nation

Why is it that American politicians with the biggest track record of supporting the violation of other nation's sovereignty when it comes to our wars all of a sudden give a damn about it when another country does the exact same thing?
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42442 posts
Posted on 1/20/23 at 11:47 am to
I spent about a month in the Kenai area 25 years ago. People I met there were not liberal at all but were often fairly libertarian in their views. Freedom-loving individualist basically. You do you and I'll do me sort of attitude.
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