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re: I'm not crazy, you're crazy - Borderline Personality Disorder

Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:22 am to
Posted by little billy
Orange County, CA
Member since May 2015
8319 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:22 am to
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Do crazy people know they're crazy?


Some do, some don't.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8685 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:23 am to
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#1 You can AND WILL win custody of the kids. Here is what you need


This is truth.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
4936 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 12:02 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/26/24 at 2:55 am
Posted by Joe D Grinder
Member since Jun 2014
832 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 12:02 pm to
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For some reason it seems to be the smoking hot ones are the crazy ones

That's why dudes stay with them. I tried for 2 years with a gorgeous blonde hair, blue-eyed CA girl. She made me question my own sanity. RUN.
Posted by TomballTiger
Htown
Member since Jan 2007
3805 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 12:09 pm to
It's a serious disorder but the severity of it varies greatly and more importantly it's entirely treatable with therapy and or meds. The serious problem is if the person is in denial and refusing to get care which is often the case. Ignore the anecdotal hyperbole of some of these morons.
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
3481 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 12:32 pm to
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One thing you will notice with someone who is BPD is that the goalposts are always moving. You can never really nail down what needs to be discussed, and if you do there will ALWAYS be something else. And in the end, you end up believing that you are the cause of everything. That's why it's a form of abuse.



Absolutely amazing how accurate this is
Well said
Posted by Paige
Vice President of the OT
Member since Oct 2010
84748 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 12:44 pm to
Check out the characteristics of codependency for both of you LINK

Codependency looks like personality disorders but is not quite as destructive. Are you or your wife cutters? Self harm and suicide attempts are important characteristics of bpd
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24988 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 12:45 pm to
We're all a little messed up in the head. Some more than others.
Posted by DerkaDerka
Member since Jul 2016
1079 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 12:47 pm to
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I agree with this, although I hate to call her my enemy. I am not at all confident that I would get custody at any rate. She doesnt have violent, loud, aggressive outbursts that I can document. She goes internal and quiet. It's all very subtle which is why I'm not, even still, convinced of whether or not she actually has it. Plus her family has deeper pockets than I could ever even dream going toe to toe with in court, and they would absolutely have her back.


Information is your friend. I went balls out with child development counsel and legal counsel. It costs monies but it is well worth it to regain some control and to know what your options are. You end up able to anticipate and prepare for their next nutty move. Take the time to start moving the situation into a better position should an end be required. Its a slow miserable process but you regain yourself as you go. While you are still on the inside you can adjust things, do as much as possible before a trigger is pulled and papers get signed. Once signed it's nearly impossible to make changes afterwards. Develop an extensive coparenting plan that removes ambiguity. Ambiguity is their tool and your enemy long term as a coparent. Mom's House, Dad's House is an excellent book to use as a benchmark in planning. Plan for the worst and make the worst less bad before it happens. Hope for the best. Good news is that you are absolutely not alone in this situation. There are tons and tons of dudes online going through it and sharing notes and plans.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71694 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 12:54 pm to
First thing I would do is do some therapy. If it is you, hopefully it would come out.
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
3481 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 1:02 pm to
Can you post the Reddit?

I’d like to read that
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
11811 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 1:44 pm to
If she has BPD, she's not an OT 10. That being said, BPD is a really difficult mental illness for those around them.
Posted by dandyjohn
Member since Apr 2009
804 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:36 pm to
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holy shite my wife does that all the time, are also things that my wife ACCUSES me of all the time.


I'm coming in wayyy late but this is a hallmark of BPD. Reference the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard recordings where she does this to him over and over and over.

People with BPD want the fight to keep going, that's the whole point. So they will say things like "I didn't hit you, you hit me." Things that are clearly not true, but it's all to get you to fight because that's all they want.

I grew up in a household where my mom and sibling had undiagnosed BPD and I have to say, as hard as it's been to move on from family, my life is so much better not having that shite around. Most importantly, my kid's life is better because I'm not constantly stressed, banging my head against the wall questioning my own sanity because of what my family was doing.

Apologies if all of this has been covered, I just had to get that out.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28627 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:38 pm to
OP: two books on this that were recommended to me when I was dating my ex with BPD
1. I hate you don’t leave me
2. Stop Walking on Eggshells: Taking Your Life Back When Someone You Care About Has Borderline Personality Disorder

Your wife needs to be in heavy duty therapy but the problem is getting people with BPD to admit that they have a problem that requires therapy.

All I can say is good luck
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She's an OT 10, trust me.

Would have to be to put up with that shite.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
49445 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:39 pm to
Thank you for posting that. I had never seen it before and it has good information.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164641 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:41 pm to
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I still don’t fully understand bpd.

It’s an excuse for why a woman is an antisocial bitch and a pain in the arse
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9739 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 2:58 pm to
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called gaslighting and manipulation.


This. I had a situation where she had me questioning if I was crazy.

I wasn’t.
Posted by madamsquirrel
The Snarlington Estate
Member since Jul 2009
49445 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:28 pm to
Whoever pointed out earlier the fact that it is easy to see once you are out of the relationship is spot on. The one that moves on and has a normal life is obviously not the crazy one. The one who continues to have issues with everyone (and can't maintain a relationship, job, has drug addictions, anger outbursts, etc) is.
Posted by straightenyourcrown
Member since Feb 2023
1 post
Posted on 2/16/23 at 3:36 pm to
If you were Borderline or had any Cluster B Personality Disorder , you would not be here asking if you had BPD. Sounds like you are being subjected to the merry go round of Cluster B tactics… gas lighting, splitting, always the victim…. Run would be my suggestion. Be aware that most BPDs become incredibly vindictive during because of their abandonment issues. You leaving them is the ultimate betrayal and they will normally punish you for it.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
4936 posts
Posted on 2/16/23 at 4:12 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/26/24 at 2:55 am
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