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re: I'm graduating in December but am starting to hate what my degree is in

Posted on 10/10/18 at 9:53 am to
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68446 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 9:53 am to
This may be his best bet
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38528 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 9:56 am to
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There's a reason over half of people wash out of sales. Because they don't make any money.


Again, depends upon their position and time of need. There are plenty of great organizations out there that have built a solid foundation, train and retain their employees and provide advancement opportunities. It may take time and research, but they are out there. Get on with one of those instead of some fly-by-night, small mom and pop (and not a knock against them either) company that has little or no resources, and you're right --- they could potentially wash out of sales.

But get on with the right company --- and you could set yourself up for a great career and prosperous future.

The difference between success and failure is perseverance. Most people quit right before their "break" was about to come and don't even realize it.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:03 am to
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But get on with the right company --- and you could set yourself up for a great career and prosperous future.



Oh so the ones that everyone apples for that maybe 1 in 10 (maybe) applocants get?

You're view of sales is scued. Only X amount of people can get sales jobs that are stable and many multiples of that are applying.

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The difference between success and failure is perseverance. Most people quit right before their "break" was about to come and don't even realize it. 


This just isn't true.
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 10:04 am
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9603 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:03 am to
Joint the military. A degree is a degree. For example, mine is in history. It's a relatively useless degree otherwise. I wanted to coach at one time as well.
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38528 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:05 am to
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You're view of sales is scued.


I'll take my real-world experience over your opinion.

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Only X amount of people can get sales jobs that are stable and many multiples of that are applying.


Every company will have a top 25 percent and a bottom 25 percent. Some will do better than others. How well one person does is directly related to the choices that they make.

All jobs that are worthwhile have competition. Specialized degree or not. I don't see how this is any different here.


This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 10:06 am
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38945 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:05 am to
Become a cabinet maker.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:11 am to
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How well one person does is directly related to the choices that they make.


In sales, this just isn't true. To an extent it always is, but if you are selling F250s when oil is $40 a barrel a lot is out of your control. A salesman can't change economic conditions.

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All jobs that are worthwhile have competition. Specialized degree or not. I don't see how this is any different here.




I agree with you here.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80193 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:12 am to
OP, you’re a fricking clown so teaching is probably the only thing you can do. Just stick it out.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97618 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:13 am to
It’s all dependent on the person, not the degree
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260171 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:14 am to
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You're view of sales is scued


He's made his living in sales. He's 100% correct
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:15 am to
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It’s all dependent on the person, not the degree


Not really. They sort of go hand in hand. Most smart people get useful degrees. It doesn't matter how smart someone is they can't be an investment banker without a series 7 and they can't design bridges without a PE.

Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
52929 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:15 am to
Teaching is the hardest job in the world, some people just can’t handle it
Posted by Eric Stratton
Faber College
Member since Mar 2015
2049 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:17 am to
Welcome to 99% of graduate's life.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260171 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:17 am to
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It’s all dependent on the person,


: And the first step is getting your foot in the door. A little charisma and hustle will take you a long way
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38528 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:19 am to
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In sales, this just isn't true. To an extent it always is, but if you are selling F250s when oil is $40 a barrel a lot is out of your control. A salesman can't change economic conditions.



You're right, but if a sales person is doing their job -- and doing more than what is required -- that person can have a database of people who are not adversely impacted by oil and economic conditions. Even if that were the case, a dealership has to appeal to all levels of buyers --- so shift your focus to a more economical vehicle, if that's the case. Or specialize in selling used vehicles. The key to one's success if often determine a person's own perceived obstacles that may or may not really be there. Being able to say this is why or that is why ... it's nothing more than an excuse. There will always people that will be buying. As a sales person, it's their job to create and cultivate the market. Fishing in the wrong pond? Try a different pond. Try a different approach. The options are out there. Anyone can take them.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97618 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:20 am to
I think you’d be surprised by how many C-suite executives have English and history degree
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38528 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:23 am to
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I think you’d be surprised by how many C-suite executives


Here's an interesting statistic and I don't remember where I heard it from (but it came from a reputable source):

Most CEO's, I believe around 70 % or a tad higher, are over 6 ft. tall.

Guess that leaves me out, unless there looking for a Ron Jeremy look-alike to run their organization.
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 10:24 am
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:25 am to
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Most CEO's, I believe around 70 % or a tad higher, are over 6 ft. tall.

just saw that in an HR video at recurrent training, and don't forget they're usually white males
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 10:27 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23673 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:29 am to
Barista is the profession of choice for college graduates who just wanted "a degree."
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 10/10/18 at 10:39 am to
Rodan & Fields needs qualified males.
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