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re: If you insatll two new tires instead of four, should they go on front or back?
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:45 am to Placebeaux
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:45 am to Placebeaux
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f you are replacing the front tires because they're worn, why would you move the worn front tires to the rear
You would not be doing that, you are replacing the 2 front tires because they are worn down more than the back ones, you would keep the less worn down ones on the back
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:49 am to Tic44
Obvious solution since your asking is put one on the front and one on the back opposite side. 50/50 survivor ratio. 100% bad ride. 
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:54 am to LSU Tigershark
I can't control how good or bad a driver your BIL is. If a blowout is handled properly, there is still a large element of danger. If it isn't, you'll immediately either spin, or go directly off of the road.
Here's an OB thread on this exact thing: LINK
Here's an OB thread on this exact thing: LINK
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 8:05 am
Posted on 4/5/18 at 8:04 am to Tic44
better tires go to the back regardless of drive axle
Posted on 4/5/18 at 8:35 am to Bama and Beer
quote:That's what you'll find on the web. The problem is, it gets you into an unworkable rotation situation. JMO, but you have to use your judgment based on how much tread is left on the older tires. If they would be fine to rotate, then put the new ones on the front to attempt to even out the wear. If you don't, you'll always be buying two new tires and putting them on the rear.
I was told to put the 2 new ones on the rear.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 8:37 am to Tic44
quote:he's right you know...listen to the technician and not the web wrenchers on here.
the guy at the tire shop told me the new ones should go on the back for traction.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 8:41 am to Chris4x4gill2
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better tires go to the back regardless of drive axle
This. Walmart lost a lawsuit in court because of this. That's the reason tire companies will put the new tires on the rear of the vehicle.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 8:47 am to Tic44
I'm not a fan of the two tire thing. I'm good about rotating my tires and like replacing all four tires at a time for wear. I know it's not always feasible but it seems like once you get into buying two new tires you will be constantly driving around with two new and two old tires.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 9:36 am to AlxTgr
I'm guessing most of their studies are done on passenger car tires with less tred depth than truck tires, so you have a valid argument. I just cross mine on the same axle and always keep the new ones on the back. I also have, on average unloaded, 600 more pounds on the driver's side (most behind the A pillar), so it makes a difference
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:21 am to Placebeaux
quote:bc tires on the back will last a very very long time.
If you are replacing the front tires because they're worn, why would you move the worn front tires to the rear?
The OP is a no brainer. You put them on the front. You need good tread on the front or else know you are you to do some hydroplaning.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:36 am to Tic44
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Ive always heard to put them on the front for steering control, but the guy at the tire shop told me the new ones should go on the back for traction.
Well, it depends if you're coming in under caution or green flag. Under caution four, not two, duh! But, on green flag definitely two on the outside to help in the corners. NASCAR 1001 baw!
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:40 am to Tic44
Right side. That side wears down more quickly so needs new tires more than left side does.
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 10:42 am
Posted on 4/5/18 at 10:59 am to airfernando
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bc tires on the back will last a very very long time.
sHEEEEEEEEET
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:05 am to Tic44
New tires always go in the back. It doesn't matter if it's a front wheel drive or not. The weight at the front of the car will hold the lesser tread tires. The back end needs the new tires for better control.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:40 pm to firstandtiger
completely conflicting answers. I put them on the rear because that's what he suggested, but it goes against what I've always been told.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 3:01 pm to Tic44
Its really simple. When the rear axle breaks free its harder to self recover. Also usually more expensive, due to higher speeds, so now they tell you to put new tires on rear. FWIW. I blame lawyers, bad drivers and poors. In that order.
I would put new on the front since thats 70%braking/100% steering. Making damn sure my bald rears didnt hydroplane on interstate.
I would put new on the front since thats 70%braking/100% steering. Making damn sure my bald rears didnt hydroplane on interstate.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 3:27 pm to brdrone
The recommendation to put new tires on the back has been industry-wide (among tire manufacturers) for more than 10 years. The reasoning is the average driver can deal with understeer (loss of grip at the front) better than oversteeer (loss of grip at the back). While most drivers don't even know it simply letting off the throttle increases front grip because weight shifts forward as the car decelerates. This effect is increased when you put on the brakes. So the natural inclination of an average untrained driver (90% of them) is what helps recover from understeer. Oversteer is much more counterintuitive to correct and while many people in the snow/ice belt do it automatically in the snow/ice the speeds are lower and don't require the quick reflexes like it does in rain or dry conditions.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 3:43 pm to Obtuse1
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The recommendation to put new tires on the back has been industry-wide (among tire manufacturers) for more than 10 years. The reasoning is the average driver can deal with understeer (loss of grip at the front) better than oversteeer (loss of grip at the back). While most drivers don't even know it simply letting off the throttle increases front grip because weight shifts forward as the car decelerates. This effect is increased when you put on the brakes. So the natural inclination of an average untrained driver (90% of them) is what helps recover from understeer. Oversteer is much more counterintuitive to correct and while many people in the snow/ice belt do it automatically in the snow/ice the speeds are lower and don't require the quick reflexes like it does in rain or dry conditions.
Also true in preventing loss of control from hydroplaning, the tires with the best tread need to be on the rear regardless of front or rear wheel drive.
Posted on 4/5/18 at 4:04 pm to EA6B
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Also true in preventing loss of control from hydroplaning, the tires with the best tread need to be on the rear regardless of front or rear wheel drive.
Exactly, everything I said is irrelevant to where the driver tires are, a FWD car can understeer just like a RWD car. That said each vehicle will have different characteristics and performance cars will, in general, be more prone to oversteer since they are designed to have more neutral balance, a family sedan will be more prone to understeer. This debate comes up less often today than in the past since more and more vehicles have different sized tires on the front vs the rear.
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