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If women/minorities earn less, why are they being disproportionately affected by layoffs?

Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:34 am
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:34 am
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women and minorities are in greater danger of losing their jobs in troubled times not only because they work in high-layoff-risk industries but also because most companies reflexively put them at the top of their layoff lists.



In bad times wouldn't you want to lay off the most expensive? Or is it possible that data shows that collectively production per dollar spent is less?

What other reason would there be besides cost/benefit or racism/sexism?

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Pushed out by pandemic, women struggle to regain footing in U.S. job market

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After being hit disproportionately by pandemic-related job losses last year, women in the United States are struggling to get back to work.

This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 11:35 am
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67490 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:35 am to
Muh oppression
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:35 am to
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Pushed out by pandemic, women struggle to regain footing in U.S. job market


Most servers in restaurants are female. And those businesses were forced to shut down.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43341 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:35 am to
The obvious answer is white patriarchy and racism.

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66869 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:36 am to
I agree with your assessment, but links to Harvard Business Review and Reuters? Nothing but propaganda websites.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65045 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:37 am to
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Most servers in restaurants are female. And those businesses were forced to shut down


Because they make more money than men do in the same server industry. I guess that kind of takes some of the wind out of the "Women are paid less than men" argument to a small extent. But I think the data shows that women choose jobs or longevity of work day for various reasons
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:38 am to
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In bad times wouldn't you want to lay off the most expensive?


No.

You layoff repetitive positions or positions that can be taken over by productive staff.

The last time we went through layoffs, admin staff (mostly women), were the first to go simply because everyone can do their job, we just don't want to most of the time.
Posted by Fessface
Member since Sep 2019
257 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:39 am to
They earn less because they are in and out of the labor force relatively more frequently, also an indication that they have less training and experience. Due to high training costs, firms are more likely to layoff those with less experience and training and hold onto workers who they have invested in their human capital.

Women might be finding it harder to get a job now because everyone's finally figured out they are all crazy.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 11:41 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54368 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:39 am to
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minorities are in greater danger

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because most companies reflexively put them at the top of their layoff lists.

No the hell they don't. Not in 2021, anyway.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3994 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:41 am to
Why would you hire men in the first place?

Save the 23%.

That's how you know it's all bullshite
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
12064 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:41 am to
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most companies reflexively put them at the top of their layoff lists.


Which companies? Or is this just another ‘well I bet this is happening so let’s say it as fact’ when really there’s zero way to prove such a statement?
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101920 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:42 am to
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In bad times wouldn't you want to lay off the most expensive?


No, the more expensive workers are most likely the more productive workers, they are also likely more able to cover the tasks of cheaper laid off workers than vice/versa.
Posted by Kujo
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:47 am to
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Most servers in restaurants are female. And those businesses were forced to shut down.


Do those restaurants have cooks and bus boys? Let me guess "those are the minorities!"
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
6989 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:48 am to
You have to be an absolute idiot if you think managers’ criteria for laying someone off is strictly due to their gender or race.

These clowns act like we live in the 1910s
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83586 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:48 am to
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Do those restaurants have cooks and bus boys? Let me guess "those are the minorities!"


latinos, specifically
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8377 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 11:56 am to
Because I exceed expectations on my annual reviews and they strive to do the bare minimum. Then they scream racism when they get cut or don't get promoted. I have personally seen this at my workplace.
Posted by Cotten
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2018
1260 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:01 pm to
Companies keep their most valuable resources during layoffs and walk the least valuable out the door.

Male/Female/Thing...it doesn’t matter. Successful companies are successful for a reason and I promise you they aren’t just “feeling” like laying off more woman then men during tough times like the woke nation thinks. Cut and dry, you’re either valuable or your not and a company is going to choose to fire their “Director of Cultural Inclusion” before their top engineers. It’s just business.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9183 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 12:10 pm to
Whenever I’ve had to choose who to layoff I keep the best performers regardless of salary.
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