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re: ‘If We Go Ahead on This Everyone Will Die’ Warns AI Expert Calling for Absolute Shutdown
Posted on 4/3/23 at 2:08 pm to lake chuck fan
Posted on 4/3/23 at 2:08 pm to lake chuck fan
Stephen King’s movie Maximum Overdrive is about to become a documentary
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Posted on 4/3/23 at 2:12 pm to Byrdybyrd05
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Why do they keep making these AI robots if they are scared of what they can become.
There are seven billion people on earth.
WEF thinks they can take off a couple of zeroes of that number and still come out in control of everything, and any means that looks promising of doing that they are going to push forward.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 2:15 pm to lake chuck fan
Terminator and I, Robot have tried to warn us.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 2:16 pm to toofache
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Why couldn't we just unplug them from the wall if worst case scenario happens?
Once it gets to that point, they would control the "plug".
Posted on 4/3/23 at 2:20 pm to lake chuck fan
It seems to me that issues could arise if humans produce a lot of highly dexterous robots that AI could then take control of and therefore produce whatever it needed without human assistance.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 2:26 pm to Crowknowsbest
quote:There are going to be quite a few self driving cars, but they have no way to charge themselves. There would have to be a huge number of robotics that could handle all of the jobs of people.
It seems to me that issues could arise if humans produce a lot of highly dexterous robots that AI could then take control of
Maybe the AI will be benevolent and help people and treat us well and make a cell phone battery that never runs out.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 2:26 pm to RougeDawg
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What is AI programmed to do?
This is a guess on my part, but something like “find the most efficient method of production/solution.”
Posted on 4/3/23 at 2:54 pm to Crowknowsbest
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It seems to me that issues could arise if humans produce a lot of highly dexterous robots that AI could then take control of and therefore produce whatever it needed without human assistance.
Exactly. Once there are a few million of those floating around it's a different story.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 2:57 pm to billjamin
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There are not enough mobile and adaptable robots in the world to do anything. They would exhaust the current supply of energy quickly then die.
You act like it would happen tomorrow. By the time they are ready, they will be.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:01 pm to Spaceman Spiff
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You act like it would happen tomorrow. By the time they are ready, they will be.
Considering there are exactly zero human replacement robots in the world, I think this fear porn is premature. But people still lap it up as always.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:06 pm to Spaceman Spiff
Another thing is that AI would only need to produce power to sustain itself, and then produce/mine plastics, minerals, metals etc. to replace parts of its own servers, functional robots, etc. It wouldn’t need to replace every functional human job, just the ones relevant to sustaining AI.
Given how quickly computing and robotic technology has advanced over the past 50 years, that isn’t so far fetched.
Given how quickly computing and robotic technology has advanced over the past 50 years, that isn’t so far fetched.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:14 pm to lake chuck fan
James Cameron saw the writing on the wall in 84.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:15 pm to lake chuck fan
Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:16 pm to hombreman9
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If we don’t make it, China will.
This this this this.
We can talk all we want about slowing it down and the potential damage to the human race.
The Chinese are going to keep developing and may lose control.
You may recall this happened with a recent virus that we deemed too dangerous to develop here, then worked on it in China, then it kicked all of our asses.
Those that don't learn the lessons of the past are doomed to repeate them.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:20 pm to lake chuck fan
We have no way of knowing if the AI has already become sentient and is tricking us into thinking it's not...
Who's to say we're not already slaves to it's will?
Who's to say we're not already slaves to it's will?
Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:28 pm to lake chuck fan
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That's the thing.... once they progress enough, it won't need a program. It will program itself. It will have the power of deductive reasoning, they will become self aware.
Self-awareness isn’t the thing to be scared of. It’s virtually impossible to prove sentience anyway, especially once folks start programming AI’s to display emotion in an effort to “humanize” them. Think about it - how do you know that anybody other than yourself is truly self-aware?
The thing to be worried about is bad programming/design. An artificial super-intelligence is more likely to kill off humanity simply because it’s trying to complete a poorly-defined goal than because of budding self-awareness.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:37 pm to billjamin
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No it can not. Lack of transportation automation alone would cripple them in days.
What keeps the robots from developing anything they need? They can drill for oil and other minerals, and harness the sun and water.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:41 pm to James11111
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What keeps the robots from developing anything they need? They can drill for oil and other minerals, and harness the sun and water.
I think you're very mistaken on how much automation there is in basic infrastructure operation and maintenance. Where's the oil change bot? The disassemble and reassemble a drilling rig bot? Repack the fluid pump bot? etc.
There are millions of small tasks that are required just to keep the lights on and there are zero robots that can do those tasks at the moment. Maybe in 100 years when we have a bunch of C-3POs running around, but the automated burger flipper isn't going to get it done.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:44 pm to billjamin
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There are millions of small tasks that are required just to keep the lights on and there are zero robots that can do those tasks at the moment.
Another option: instead of killing humans off, AI forcibly subjugates them to perform these tasks.
Posted on 4/3/23 at 3:46 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Another option: instead of killing humans off, AI forcibly subjugates them to perform these tasks.
I don't see anyway they could control it. All people would have to do is nothing for a couple weeks and the entire worlds power supply would just stop and the AI would be dead.
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