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re: If the Texas model of state government works so well, why can't we emulate it?

Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
36924 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:55 pm to
Yes, we can do it.

But like every system, there is power. To move to the system you describe would change the balance of power. The people who hold the power won't easily give it up.

I really believe there are really two keys. Doing these two things will cause LA to catch up to Texas in 20-30 years. There are no shortcuts. And both of them involve education.

1) Restructure higher ed to close a number of 4 year schools. Take every dollar saved and invest it in a legit junior college system.

2) Move to the ISD model. Turn Louisiana Dept of Ed into a high level policy organization that focuses on best practices and training/development. Exempt schools from the homestead exemption (or give them a much lower one). Roll back most of the minimum foundation program. Reduce income taxes by the amount of reduced spending.

Those two things will start the process of creating a new Louisiana. They will lead to a better educated workforce, which will lead to more companies locating here, a higher tax base, and ultimately, a shift of power and politicians.

Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2857 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18835 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:56 pm to
I think you already know.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
28021 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:58 pm to
In the Counties turning Blue, that will slow to a crawl. That is a guarantee.

a *20 Lock
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2857 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

I really believe there are really two keys. Doing these two things will cause LA to catch up to Texas in 20-30 years. There are no shortcuts. And both of them involve education.

1) Restructure higher ed to close a number of 4 year schools. Take every dollar saved and invest it in a legit junior college system.

2) Move to the ISD model. Turn Louisiana Dept of Ed into a high level policy organization that focuses on best practices and training/development. Exempt schools from the homestead exemption (or give them a much lower one). Roll back most of the minimum foundation program. Reduce income taxes by the amount of reduced spending.

Those two things will start the process of creating a new Louisiana. They will lead to a better educated workforce, which will lead to more companies locating here, a higher tax base, and ultimately, a shift of power and politicians.


Get out of here with all that high falutin' rational thought nonsense, baw!

Serious addition: Need to rewrite the the state constitution and how it is amended. The facade of referundum hides the fact that it's a way for special interests to protect their public $$$ income
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 4:01 pm to
30+ vs. 4 million for starters....not even close to being able to mirror their model, there are logical reasons, i know the heated funny rhetoric will win the post battle here...I do agree louisiana has to figure something out...I dont know what.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
36924 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

Serious addition: Need to rewrite the the state constitution and how it is amended. The facade of referundum hides the fact that it's a way for special interests to protect their public $$$ income


The constitution in Texas is amended all the damn time as well. I don't think it's the amendment process that is the problem.

The constitution in Texas and governance system (like the federal one) reserves some powers for the state, and everything else is left up to the counties, alone or working together.

The LA constitution and governance system is the opposite. The state declares what powers the locals are allowed to have, and everything else stays with the state. The fact that the governor has appointment power over every damn commission and most agencies is insane. Plus... the entire concept of the police jury system.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
36924 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

30+ vs. 4 million for starters....not even close to being able to mirror their model, there are logical reasons, i know the heated funny rhetoric will win the post battle here...I do agree louisiana has to figure something out...I dont know what.


While this is an issue... when the texas system started they were a lot closer to us in population. Their system is the reason they have grown so much.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34144 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 4:58 pm to
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While this is an issue... when the texas system started they were a lot closer to us in population. Their system is the reason they have grown so much.


Houston gets 150 new people moving to the city a day! Staggering number!

10% of all people born in Louisiana move to TX.

Big money saver by moving to TX
Posted by Tempratt
WRMS Girls Soccer Team Kicks arse
Member since Oct 2013
13257 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:12 pm to
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Too many democrats



No doubt. Apparently there are enough stupid voters that Sid the Sloth a.k.a. John Belle Edwards managed to get elected. Then there was EWE that was elected multiple time. If he could run again, he'd be elected again by the same clueless people as before.
This post was edited on 3/7/18 at 11:24 am
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113851 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:14 pm to
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Why can't LA and other southern states create a similar model.



Because that would make take away money from the top and there are too many hands in the pot that it would never happen here.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:16 pm to
Oil.

We aren't really even close in oil production or royalties.

All the other is fluff that was able to be built on the back of O&G and is now seen as independent.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65559 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:17 pm to

The Texas model you reference is shite, honestly. This midterm is a mess. Stand back and watch what teachers are going to do to Dan Patrick. He's a dead man walking and he should be.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:19 pm to
culture tends to get in the way of progress
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65559 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:20 pm to

This thread is full of nonsense.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:21 pm to
Not enough room for Gravy.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:40 pm to
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Also, a different mindset about"stealing money" The Texan waits until there is money in the bank before he robs it. The dumbass from Louisiana tries to rob the person going to the bank before he has his money
on a similar note, I've heard the saying "Texas steals the money after the road is built. Louisiana steals the money before the road is built. "
This post was edited on 3/6/18 at 7:40 pm
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:47 pm to
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I've heard the saying "Texas steals the money after the road is built. Louisiana steals the money before the road is built. " ?


that's good.
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

Historic, systemic, embedded corruption among politicians and other government officials.

And a largely uneducated and carefree population that refuses to demand change at the voting booth.



Spot on my friend
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34144 posts
Posted on 3/6/18 at 7:56 pm to
Why have so many people moved to Houston from Louisiana?
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