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re: If malls are dying across the country, and online shopping is so popular

Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
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Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:06 pm to
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You're better than this thread, Paul.


Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:09 pm to
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Sir I find your intellect as deficient as your manners


Tennis and sailing turn men into pretentious c()nts, after all.
This post was edited on 12/19/15 at 5:11 pm
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
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Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:10 pm to
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They dead
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But on the outskirts of Atlanta, we found one formerly dying mall that's thriving. Where some saw financial ruin, Jose Legaspi saw opportunity.

In 2005 he took over a struggling, generic mall and transformed it into Plaza Fiesta, designed specifically to meet the needs of an exploding Hispanic population.

"We follow demographics," Legaspi told Strassmann. "Because it's nothing more than numbers game, I will tell you. You've got to have enough number of consumers to be able to support something like this, or any kind of mall."

Legaspi had turned dead space into successful Hispanic malls in several cities with large immigrant communities. Looking to expand, he discovered the Hispanic population of Atlanta had nearly tripled between 1990 and 2000.

But one thing was missing.

"The extended family concept is very, very key" to the culture of the Hispanic community, Legaspi said. "There was not a place where the families could gather. And shopping doesn't just mean shoes and clothing or eating at a restaurant; it's also a place where they can listen to music, sit down, relax, and spend some time with the family."

Plaza Fiesta has 280 stores, but there's also a doctor's office, and a dentist. There are hairdressers, money-wiring services -- everything you might find in a Mexican village. There's even a bus station to bring customers in
Well that's both inspiring and terrifying at the same time
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:11 pm to
I didn't even read the link
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:17 pm to
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What is it?



Anecdotes
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
37025 posts
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:17 pm to
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Is this nationwide or is the Mall of Louisiana and Baton Rouge an aberration?


Can't tell you since I haven't been in a mall in years.

Can say that the outlet malls always look pretty busy though.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
28089 posts
Posted on 12/19/15 at 5:36 pm to
Oak Hills mall here in Gainesville is packed. It's ridiculously busy. Traffic here sucks too. Glad to be going back to Colorado
Posted by RedRifle
Austin/NO
Member since Dec 2013
8335 posts
Posted on 12/19/15 at 6:18 pm to
I know that Mendoza is a better business school than that. They must have taught you about using anecdotal evidence as fact.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/19/15 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/19/15 at 7:35 pm to
Brick and Mortar is still 10x+ the size of e-commerce. Even if e-commerce is growing rapidly, the vast majority of stuff is still sold in stores. Now, when you look at generational cuts, I would expect youth buy a disproportionate amount online.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78692 posts
Posted on 12/19/15 at 7:39 pm to
10X, that's a little too high IMO
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
74135 posts
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:47 pm to
haha, well there's always going to be last minute rush shopping..

delivery is backed up this time of year as well
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78692 posts
Posted on 12/19/15 at 8:49 pm to
True
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25337 posts
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:40 pm to
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10X, that's a little too high IMO



LINK

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The web in 2018 will account for 11% of total retail sales, up from 8% in 2013, according to a new Forrester Research e-retail forecast.


There you go. Less than 10% of retail sales comes from ecommerce, currently.

Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:46 pm to
probably depends on the mall

There are several in Dallas that aren't going anywhere but there are a few on the dead malls list too.

gone full circle, too - these outdoor malls are merely trying to recreate a downtown type shopping area with better parking
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25337 posts
Posted on 12/19/15 at 9:50 pm to
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probably depends on the mall

There are several in Dallas that aren't going anywhere but there are a few on the dead malls list too.

gone full circle, too - these outdoor malls are merely trying to recreate a downtown type shopping area with better parking


Northpark and Galleria are legit.

Shops at Legacy fills a need. West Village is great. These walkaround places are terrific for building upscale neighborhoods around them.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39568 posts
Posted on 12/19/15 at 11:01 pm to
Class A malls like MOA and Lakeside in Metairie are doing fine and aren't going anywhere. It's the class B and C malls (Slidell, Cortana) that have been dying more each year. And it sucks too. I fricking hate these new "outdoor malls" which is really just a bunch of stores clumped together.

My favorite former mall was the Hammond mall (Hammond Square, I think). It had the coolest layout. So 80s.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78692 posts
Posted on 12/20/15 at 12:55 am to
Just find it odd that malls aren't being built and aren't as cool as they once were and with all the online shopping they're seemingly doing just fine.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26627 posts
Posted on 12/20/15 at 12:57 am to
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If malls are dying across the country, and online shopping is so popular


Indoor malls are doing pretty well up here in the frozen north.
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