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re: ICE has a chance to do the funniest thing

Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:44 pm to
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thank you for not understanding that some people still make it thru steps of the process and all the way thru even though they didn't do all of it legally.



What percentage do you think make it through every step of the process if they weren't legally allowed to be here in the first place?
Posted by TT9
Seychelles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:45 pm to
Not sorry for making fun of your fellow dumb fricks.

Can't imagine the trash that shite you guys out. Full of trash DNA.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37083 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:47 pm to
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Uh, that's exactly what seeking asylum means. They met with an American official at the border and made a case to ask for protection via entry to the United States. As you J6rs like to say, "they just let them right in!"


No it’s not you fricking idiot. You come to the US with no papers, visas, residency, work permit, etc because you’re facing persecution in your home country. At that point within a year of entering the country you have to apply for formal asylum.

Quite literally the entire point of asylum is you can come here quickly and not have to go through any of the formal administrative bullshite in regards to immigration because you don’t have time.

Are you uneducated on the topic or just a liar to push your political objective?
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:48 pm to
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You realize this is the point of an elongated naturalization process, which has many different requirements, right?


I assume you have been a us citizen all your life...how much faith do you have in our government? i mean damn thinking they never make mistakes is pretty amazing.

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Where would be without you asking the tough questions, such as 'yeah, but what if they aren't?'


i wish i could think like you and believe no mistakes can be made by those vetting anyone...i mean shite they are all geniuses right
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49950 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:48 pm to
So Trump is pressuring countries with poor record keeping and ties to terrorism to get their shite together

Interesting

Definitely sucks for the people who thought they were gonna be citizens though
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37083 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:48 pm to
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Topwater Trout


Id just like the record to reflect you’re a fricking retard
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37083 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:49 pm to
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So Trump is pressuring countries with poor record keeping and ties to terrorism to get their shite together Interesting Definitely sucks for the people who thought they were gonna be citizens though


I think the point is this is an extremely easy thing to fix that they seem to have no interest in doing for some reason
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:50 pm to
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What percentage do you think make it through every step of the process if they weren't legally allowed to be here in the first place?


i have no idea but unlike you i know it is higher than zero. What do you think it is...zero?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12654 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:50 pm to
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the point is some, even though illegally here, have become us citizens. My point is also how do you know without a doubt all were here legally and none have done anything that could have had their visas or green cards cancelled. Just bc they were almost finishing the naturalization process doesn't mean they did everything legally...which is what you are assuming.

1. As far as I’m aware there is no “visa or green card” when it comes to naturalization. You have to be a permanent resident, meaning green card holder.

2. USCIS confirmed that they’ve paused all applications for people from the countries on the administration’s list of “high risk” countries. If everyone from those countries have had their applications suspended, I think it’s safe to assume that at minimum, the vast majority who were at the end of the process did everything legally. More likely all of them did everything legally. Otherwise, you’d have to be assuming that a significant number made it all the way to naturalization with bogus paperwork.. which would be crazy.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:52 pm to
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I assume you have been a us citizen all your life...how much faith do you have in our government? i mean damn thinking they never make mistakes is pretty amazing.



I don't think those mistakes are systematic to the degree that people at the last step of the naturalization process, which is both time-intensive and costly, are the ones who deserve more scrutiny.

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i wish i could think like you and believe no mistakes can be made by those vetting anyone...i mean shite they are all geniuses right



It's a bureaucracy designed to do one thing. Again, you want perfection from a bureaucracy that you certainly wouldn't expect from yourself. It's a stupid place to levy an objection.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39298 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:53 pm to
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i have no idea but unlike you i know it is higher than zero. What do you think it is...zero?



It's likely infinitesimally small. People who are here illegally are not the target demographic, as they won't have the necessary paperwork to even apply in the first place. So who exactly are you targeting?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106223 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:53 pm to
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So Trump is pressuring countries with poor record keeping and ties to terrorism to get their shite together Interesting Definitely sucks for the people who thought they were gonna be citizens though


I would say it more than sucks now that they’re in a no man’s land of unable to complete the legal process they’ve invested money and years in as a functional adult in this country.

They could’ve easily stopped new applications from those countries while processing who is already in the naturalization process (and even flag them for more extensive vetting).

But then that would make too much fricking sense.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
49950 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:54 pm to
Yeah pretty dumb for sure
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14874 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:55 pm to
Follow the delivery truck and make a record of the stops.

Then do visits to those locations later to check visa status.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
69574 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 12:59 pm to
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I don't think those mistakes are systematic to the degree that people at the last step of the naturalization process, which is both time-intensive and costly, are the ones who deserve more scrutiny.


at what step should people not be able to be declined citizenship? 4th step? 3rd?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106223 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:00 pm to
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at what step should people not be able to be declined citizenship? 4th step? 3rd?


You can be declined at anytime during naturalization if you fail to pass a step. Such as the citizenship test, the background check, the interview.

Again, we’re talking about folks that passed all of those. They were literally at the swearing in step.

ETA: I do think if they’re validly completing the steps in the process, they shouldn’t have their application stopped because of a retroactive ban on their country.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 1:04 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37083 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:00 pm to
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at what step should people not be able to be declined citizenship? 4th step? 3rd?


Whatever step they don’t meet the qualifications. Is it really that hard?
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
3699 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:05 pm to
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That's not what we, as voters, were sold. We were told they're going after those with criminal records.


I mean that's what they been doing first and foremost. Whatever you have heard otherwise isn't always true. I have a good friend that works for ICE and he told me every day they are only assigned certain illegel criminals to go after. Any other illegal that gets arrested during these raids are just crossfire and in the wrong place at the wrong time. Anyways we were always sold that they would be going after all illegals but the criminals would be priority and that is what's been happening. Anything different you hear is leftist propaganda.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 1:07 pm
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
59426 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:08 pm to
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It does not help the cause. I think a lot of you are more interested in owning the libs than securing a future for our country.


What role do 20 million illegal leeches have on securing the future of our country?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41443 posts
Posted on 12/18/25 at 1:08 pm to
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Most of them sought asylum which means they got to the border and met with American officials.


Why can’t they take asylum in Mexico? Why does it have to be here? Isn’t international law written au ch that asylum seekers have to migrate to the closest country not in a state of war or unrest?
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 1:09 pm
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