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re: ICBM Nuclear Missiles

Posted on 4/28/25 at 11:59 am to
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 11:59 am to
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The problem is that ANY missile defense network can be overwhelmed just by saturation.


Yea that's the problem. Modern nuclear weapons can have up to like 9 warheads, some of which may be dummy heads.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94824 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:00 pm to
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a friend of mine in the Navy has been involved with some pretty cool SDI type of stuff over the last few years, that any of it has made it into the media indicates. it's either pretty advanced/successful or maybe intentional?


It's tricky - if you keep a really good system secret, it may not deter the other side. If you reveal you have a good system, they might double their warheads or work harder to improve them.

A very delicate balance is required in a MAD world.
Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
2866 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:01 pm to
I know a guy that is a Ground Test Director for US Missile Command. I assure you we can intercept ICBMs.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
89055 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:02 pm to
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A very delicate balance is required in a MAD world.


agree, definitely a high stakes chess match
Posted by MikeBRLA
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
17130 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:04 pm to
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Is it 1986 again?

Every gen x’r and older knows this bruh.


My thoughts exactly. I knew all of this at 10 years old.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94824 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:06 pm to
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Modern nuclear weapons can have up to like 9 warheads, some of which may be dummy heads.


Peacekeepers could carry up to 11 and Trident IIs up to 12. The US no longer MIRVs the Minuteman III. The Russian Satan II has up to 15. They've kept more MIRVs in their arsenal than we have since New START (thanks Obama).

Posted by YouKnowImRight
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2023
2866 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Went down the rabbit hole on videos last night...Had no idea...Russia can send over a nuclear ICBM and hit DC in less than 24 minutes...There are some that can do it in less than 10 minutes that they are working on. We have ZERO way of defending ourselves against them. Nothing to shoot these out the sky effectively. Good Lord!


Where were you during the Cold War? Did you not already know all of this?

If Russia launched a full on nuclear attack on the United States, there is no way we can shoot them all down. The question is whether they are still even capable of firing in the first place.

China and Russia both have hundreds of nuclear missiles aimed at us. The only thing that keeps them from launching them is the hundred we have aiming back at them.

The question is not if we will ever have a nuclear exchange, but when.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5557 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:19 pm to
We all going be surprise when the truth revealed that we(the USA) or the only ones with the ability to strike with nuclear weapons… “the proof in the pudding” as they say.., has anyone else ever used one???
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:24 pm to
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There’s a submarine in the Pacific Ocean whose task is to shoot down an ICBM from Russia. It’s position it’s never known and it’s constantly moving.


First of all I seriously doubt that’s true and second, one submarine wouldn’t be able to stop enough to make a difference. And why is this super secret submarine in the Pacific? ICBMs from Russia will be coming over the North Pole.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16561 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:27 pm to
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jmorr34


Classic, but I'm le tired...
Posted by JEC119
Alabama
Member since Apr 2024
2270 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:37 pm to
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Welcome to the 1980's...


lol

I swear I can hear the song, Land of Confusion playing in the distance ….. OH OHWhoa
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
25724 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:51 pm to
That’s if they work properly. Russia doesn’t have the best tech
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35461 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 12:59 pm to
You compressed the entire Cold War experience into a couple hours on YouTube.
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 1:02 pm
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
25673 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:03 pm to
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Posted by Chingon Ag
Member since Nov 2018
3982 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:11 pm to
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MAD - Mutually Assured Destruction.


Nice story. Tell it to Readers Digest.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86115 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:12 pm to
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Her (Annie Jacobsen) book from last year, Nuclear War: A Scenario, was a fascinating and terrifying read.


It's good even if it does require a few perhaps less likely (but not THAT far fetched) scenarios to get to the end result.

Going to be a movie by Dennis Villeneuve
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
113965 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:14 pm to
It's called "nuclear deterrence" for a reason. When our SSBNs go out to sea, it's called a strategic deterrent patrol. The main thing keeping other countries from getting trigger happy is knowing that we would destroy them in a counterstrike.
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 1:15 pm
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
113965 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:20 pm to
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Trident IIs up to 12


x 24 missile tubes on Ohio class subs = a whole lotta destruction. We usually have at least 2 SSBNs from each coast on patrol at any time. Then, add in the rest of the nuclear triad... bombers and silos. That's why nobody has been dumb enough to strike first.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62175 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:21 pm to
It’s been that way since ICBMs existed.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94824 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 1:34 pm to
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x 24 missile tubes on Ohio class subs =


So, potentially a strike with 288 individual warheads from a single boomer. In reality, the mix of dummy to live has been something like 7:3 (or 30% live). The hundreds of dummies are to overwhelm any ABM system to get the dozens of live warheads through.
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