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re: Ian Observation Thread (Storm Track and Radar inside)

Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:02 pm to

Tropical Storm Ian Discussion Number 7
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL AL092022
500 PM EDT Sat Sep 24 2022

The satellite presentation of Ian has improved this afternoon. The
associated deep convection shows increased signs of organization,
and the deep-layer shear appears to have diminished over the cyclone
based on more extensive upper-level outflow noted in visible
satellite imagery. An Air Force Hurricane Hunter aircraft found
850-mb peak flight level winds of 44 kt and several SFMR retrievals
greater than 40 kt, while dropsonde data suggest the minimum
pressure has not changed much since the previous flight. A blend of
these data support an initial intensity of 40 kt for this advisory.

The aircraft data suggest the center could be re-forming slightly
west of previous estimates, so the initial motion is an uncertain
265/14 kt. Ian is expected to move westward through early Sunday
before turning northwestward around the southwestern periphery of a
ridge to the north. A north-northwestward to northward motion is
forecast on Monday and Tuesday as the center of Ian passes near or
over the western tip of Cuba and emerges over the southeastern Gulf
of Mexico. Overall, the westward trend in the track models
continues, with the latest GFS on the far left side of the guidance
envelope and the ECMWF on the right edge. The track forecast is
still highly uncertain at days 4-5, with the GFS and ECMWF positions
about 200 n mi apart by 96 h. There is significant spread noted even
among the GFS ensemble members, with positions that range from the
north-central Gulf of Mexico to the west coast of Florida.
Hopefully, data collected from special radiosonde releases and a
NOAA G-IV flight this evening will help better resolve the steering
flow around Ian and the deep-layer trough that is forecast to be
over the eastern U.S. early next week. The latest NHC track forecast
is once again adjusted westward, and further adjustments may be
needed given the increased uncertainty in the day 3-5 period.

Ian is expected to significantly strengthen over the next few
days as it moves within a low shear environment over SSTs greater
than 30 deg C in the northwestern Caribbean Sea. As the structure
of the cyclone continues to improve and Ian develops an inner core,
rapid intensification (RI) appears very likely. The SHIPS-RII
probabilities continue to highlight this potential, with a 66
percent chance of a 65-kt intensity increase in 72 h. The NHC
intensity forecast has been raised substantially through 96 h, and
it now shows Ian reaching major hurricane strength by late Monday
before it nears western Cuba. These changes closely follow the IVCN
and HCCA consensus aids, although there remains guidance even higher
than the current forecast. Ian is forecast to remain a major
hurricane as it moves northward across the eastern Gulf of Mexico
and approaches Florida. Environmental conditions could become less
favorable late in the period due to southerly shear associated with
the aforementioned trough, but Ian is expected to remain a large
and powerful hurricane through the period.


Key Messages:

1. Ian is expected to produce heavy rainfall, flash flooding, and
possible mudslides in areas of higher terrain, particularly over
Jamaica and Cuba. Limited flash and urban flooding is possible with
rainfall across the Florida Keys and Florida peninsula through mid
next week.

2. Hurricane or tropical storm conditions are expected on Grand
Cayman beginning early Monday.

3. Ian is forecast to be a major hurricane when it passes near or
over western Cuba, and there is increasing confidence in a
life-threatening storm surge and hurricane-force winds in portions
of western Cuba beginning late Monday.

4. Ian is expected to remain a major hurricane when it moves
generally northward across the eastern Gulf of Mexico during the
middle of next week, but uncertainty in the track forecast is higher
than usual. Regardless of Ian’s exact track, there is a risk of
dangerous storm surge, hurricane-force winds, and heavy rainfall
along the west coast of Florida and the Florida Panhandle by the
middle of next week, and residents in Florida should ensure they
have their hurricane plan in place, follow any advice given by local
officials, and closely monitor updates to the forecast.


FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS

INIT 24/2100Z 14.3N 77.0W 40 KT 45 MPH
12H 25/0600Z 14.6N 78.4W 50 KT 60 MPH
24H 25/1800Z 15.7N 80.3W 60 KT 70 MPH
36H 26/0600Z 17.4N 82.2W 75 KT 85 MPH
48H 26/1800Z 19.2N 83.5W 95 KT 110 MPH
60H 27/0600Z 20.9N 84.4W 110 KT 125 MPH
72H 27/1800Z 23.1N 85.0W 115 KT 130 MPH
96H 28/1800Z 26.2N 84.8W 115 KT 130 MPH
120H 29/1800Z 28.7N 83.9W 90 KT 105 MPH
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
38331 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
18888 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

Local weather folks


In LA ? Just want you to keep watching.

quote:

say the steering is not strong, so SE LA is still in play.



I guess they should take over the NHC in that case.


Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
31976 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:10 pm to
Super Typhoon Noru approaching the Philippines

Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
18888 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

the Philippines


Has to be the most battered place on earth when it comes to these storms ?
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
47701 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:14 pm to
That is a nasty looking storm, prayers to those in the path
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
20619 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

Super Typhoon Noru approaching the Philippines


True case of explosive RI.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
31976 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:17 pm to
quote:

True case of explosive RI.



From TS to a possible Cat 5 Super Typhoon in 24 hrs has to be up there in the record books.
Posted by LSUTiger23
Madisonville, LA
Member since Jun 2010
1289 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:18 pm to
quote:

The aircraft data suggest the center could be re-forming slightly west of previous estimates, so the initial motion is an uncertain


quote:

The latest NHC track forecast is once again adjusted westward, and further adjustments may be needed given the increased uncertainty in the day 3-5 period.


Things anyone in LA/MS/AL don’t want to hear.
This post was edited on 9/24/22 at 4:19 pm
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
9236 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:20 pm to
This post was edited on 9/24/22 at 4:44 pm
Posted by BayouENGR
Seagrove Beach
Member since Nov 2015
2670 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:21 pm to
The Florida panhandle isn’t crazy about it either!
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
31976 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

Has to be the most battered place on earth when it comes to these storms ?



I think they are 2nd only to China & Japan is in 3rd for most landfalls.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66837 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:26 pm to
Noru is a little bowling ball of a storm.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
48876 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:27 pm to
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INIT 24/2100Z 14.3N 77.0W 40 KT 45 MPH 12H 25/0600Z 14.6N 78.4W 50 KT 60 MPH 24H 25/1800Z 15.7N 80.3W 60 KT 70 MPH 36H 26/0600Z 17.4N 82.2W 75 KT 85 MPH 48H 26/1800Z 19.2N 83.5W 95 KT 110 MPH 60H 27/0600Z 20.9N 84.4W 110 KT 125 MPH 72H 27/1800Z 23.1N 85.0W 115 KT 130 MPH 96H 28/1800Z 26.2N 84.8W 115 KT 130 MPH 120H 29/1800Z 28.7N 83.9W 90 KT 105 MPH

Wow, wasn’t expecting them to forecast it reaching cat 4.
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3578 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:30 pm to
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Nb4 cone shouldn’t be able to shift
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
9236 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:32 pm to
You can see the landfall time getting pushed back each update. Slower storm = more west
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

From TS to a possible Cat 5 Super Typhoon in 24 hrs has to be up there in the record books.


Wilma pulled something ridiculous like that in 2005.

Im sure OT Weather Historian The Boat can give the exact details.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
66837 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Wow, wasn’t expecting them to forecast it reaching cat 4.

It has a pretty high ceiling if it avoids or just clips Cuba. I'm thinking the Euro under estimated the strength on the 12z this time.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172348 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Wilma pulled something ridiculous like that in 2005.


Basically 100 hPa drop in 30 hours
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36408 posts
Posted on 9/24/22 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Wow, wasn’t expecting them to forecast it reaching cat 4.


Im not on that path.
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