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re: I urge you to watch this before getting the COVID vaccine

Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84097 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:18 pm to
That would not technically likely be a HIPAA violation. But it would certainly be a new ethical breach frontier. And as for human freedom, absolutely disastrous. Your Army of Upstanding Karens have no idea what you might unleash. To go from a Covid database to a social score database would be a matter of a 30 minute back door adjustment. You might want to slow your roll while you still can, ma’am.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:19 pm to
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Here's the thing. Why not let us choose. Fat an out of shape indoor types can rely on the vaccine and healthy active people can choose otherwise if they wish. Stop being a busybody and placing your short comings on everyone else. This slow but incrementalism toward mandatory vaccines for everyone is ANTI-SCIENCE. Let people choose. Err on the side of liberty, always.
Pretty sure I said it's fine if you choose not to be vaccinated. I also said it's fine if the rest of us discriminate based on that choice. That's liberty.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38798 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:20 pm to
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And because requiring people to produce a health record is in violation of every known HIPPA standard that our society has.


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That would not technically likely be a HIPAA violation.


Good talk.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34783 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:23 pm to
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power hungry politicians many have referenced will no longer have a leg to stand on and life as usual can resume




You are completely naive if you think the politicians and the media are gonna let things go back to normal.

They will hype up the variants when it comes to that time.


I say that as a vaccinated person.

The average Democrat polled thinks that 50% of people who get COVID get hospitalized. 50%.


We are a LONG ways away from people being normal in any metro area.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32920 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:24 pm to
I took the vaccine and my lab results came back the other day that I am now sterile. I'm being 100% serious.

I mean, I did have a vasectomy back in early March but I'm not saying this isn't a vaccine side effect just yet.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133811 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:24 pm to
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Pretty sure I said it's fine if you choose not to be vaccinated. I also said it's fine if the rest of us discriminate based on that choice.


It's illogical discrimination. After all you are vaccinated and protected so why would you care if you come into contact with someone that is not vaccinated?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133811 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:26 pm to
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I took the vaccine and my lab results came back the other day that I am now sterile. I'm being 100% serious.

I mean, I did have a vasectomy back in early March but I'm not saying this isn't a vaccine side effect just yet.




If you died the cause would be COVID. Fact.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38798 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:26 pm to
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It's illogical discrimination.


So?

I thought we should err on the side of liberty, always


Always would include “illogical discrimination” btw
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133811 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:29 pm to
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So?

I thought we should err on the side of liberty, always


Always would include “illogical discrimination” btw



Fine. I'll join you virtue signalers if that makes you happy. Just say I got the vaccine. Wink wink.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:29 pm to
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It's illogical discrimination. After all you are vaccinated and protected so why would you care if you come into contact with someone that is not vaccinated?
I'm going to try this route when my son's school asks for his vaccination forms and see how that works out
This post was edited on 4/23/21 at 2:32 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133811 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:29 pm to
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I'm going to try this route when my son's school asks for my son's vaccination forms and see how that works out



Better route is to fake it.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:30 pm to
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Better route is to fake it.
Why?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133811 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:32 pm to
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Why?


Kill two birds with one stone. Not take the vaccine as your choice and still go to school.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:33 pm to
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It's illogical discrimination.
I beg to differ. Liberty.
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After all you are vaccinated and protected so why would you care if you come into contact with someone that is not vaccinated?
I don't care if you're around me, but it's not about me. I'm saying that if a business chooses not to hire unvaccinated people because they may pose a health risk to customers, they should be free to do so. Liberty.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
84097 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:33 pm to
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every known HIPPA standard


If you do not see the problem with Covid passports, new databases with private health information run by God knows who, restrictions on employment and freedom of movement etc, God help you.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:35 pm to
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Fine. I'll join you virtue signalers if that makes you happy. Just say I got the vaccine. Wink wink.
So now arguing for freedom is virtue signaling? Gotcha.
Posted by ForLSU56
Rapides Parish
Member since Feb 2015
5582 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:35 pm to
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It’s like 20-beer hangover without the dehydration. Everything hurts and my head is. foggy


Rub some dirt on it.

Day 2 is a bitch, tomorrow will be better, the next day even better.
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:36 pm to
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Kill two birds with one stone. Not take the vaccine as your choice and still go to school.
Roger that, McLovin
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28643 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:36 pm to
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It's illogical discrimination. After all you are vaccinated and protected so why would you care if you come into contact with someone that is not vaccinated?


It isn't necessarily illogical. There is a moral/ethical component to the public policy argument to reach herd immunity. There is a portion of the population for whom the vaccine is not an option due to certain medical issues, the Venn of those people and ones that have a high risk of serious complications or death from COVID is nearly a perfect overlap. I think a utilitarian argument could easily be made that it is logical for a large portion of the population take a very small risk to protect a smaller portion of the population from a very high risk. It is a similar process that has children get vaccines from all but eradicated diseases to protect those who can not safely take the vaccines.

The second prong of that public policy argument is despite the low risk for the current variants of COVID if allowed to continue to move through a significant portion of the unvaccinated population it will continue to mutate. With every mutation, we run the risk of a variant that is significantly more deadly and/or transmissible.

So it is only illogical if you don't consider any of the public policy reasoning as valid.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
133811 posts
Posted on 4/23/21 at 2:37 pm to
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I don't care if you're around me, but it's not about me. I'm saying that if a business chooses not to hire unvaccinated people because they may pose a health risk to customers, they should be free to do so.


Fine.

But I bet someone that has already over-come the virus is much less of a spreader than a vaccinated person. At least the person that had the virus was exposed to the entire allotment of proteins presented by the corona virus whereas the person with just the vaccine is only effective to specific spiked proteins.
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