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re: I said, "My name is Patrick!"(police bodycam)
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:07 pm to slackster
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:07 pm to slackster
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That doesn't mean Patrick is in the wrong when he was innocent in the first place.
He was in the wrong for resisting. They weren't arresting him at first, then he decided to be a hero and not comply with their commands. His innocence is gone at that point.
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Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:08 pm to LNCHBOX
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Relative in teh video dropping the truth bomb "Why would you try to run from the police?" The family there knows Patrick fricked up.
The family member that came up on the scene after the fact and literally saw nothing of the initial interaction? What about the guy who was there the whole time and saw everything? He certainly disagreed with the other family member that was chastising Patrick for "running"
Furthermore, her view of the situation is tainted as the cop lies to her face about asking for ID. If the cop rolled up and asked for ID 3 times like he said, this likely doesn't happen. That relative mistakenly believes that's what happened and that Patrick resisted giving the cops his ID. Unfortunately that's not what happened at all.
BTW I watched all 3 videos from the time they were in the squad car until the time Patrick was put on the trunk of the squad car. Give me time stamps of pertinent video that was edited out in that timeframe. Thanks. Shouldn't be too hard.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:08 pm to Chad504boy
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cop video 1, 11:40. they aren't going to let a suspect play around in a fricking car.
These guys don't care about it. They are way too dug in on teh topic.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:08 pm to LNCHBOX
I'm sorry that grandma is a fricking moron like you too.
I never stated he did himself any favors. Only that the cops shouldn't have to cuff him to properly identify him. And that they should properly identify him, altogether.
I never stated he did himself any favors. Only that the cops shouldn't have to cuff him to properly identify him. And that they should properly identify him, altogether.
This post was edited on 7/15/16 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:09 pm to LNCHBOX
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hey weren't arresting him at first
You don't know that.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:09 pm to cas4t
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I'm sorry that grandma is a fricking moron like you too.
It's sad you have to insult to try to make your point. inb4yousayitoldyoutoblowmeinthelastpost, you earned that one
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Only that the cops shouldn't have to cuff him to properly identify him.
If Patrick would have cooperated, they wouldn't have.
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Or that they should properly identify him, altogether.
Patrick's fault, as the videos show.
This post was edited on 7/15/16 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:09 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Furthermore, her view of the situation is tainted as the cop lies to her face about asking for ID.
a good point as well
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:10 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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You don't know that.
Neither does everyone saying they were. All we have is the video and the words, neither of which show he was being arrested at that point.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:10 pm to LNCHBOX
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It's sad you have to insult to try to make your point.
you just said "blow me"
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as the videos show.
the only difference in the video is what grandma thinks. The fact that you find this damning is really telling.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:11 pm to JohnnyKilroy
"turn around and put your hands on the car" generally means you're being searched and cuffed. Especially with a warrant. Not rocket science.
This post was edited on 7/15/16 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:11 pm to LNCHBOX
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He was in the wrong for resisting. They weren't arresting him at first, then he decided to be a hero and not comply with their commands. His innocence is gone at that point.
Even if I concede that ridiculous believe, it doesn't change the fact that the police had the wrong guy. They asked his name, he answered it, it was the truth, then shite got real. They assumed he was lying and they were wrong.
You and others like to justify shootings by saying that if so and so complied they wouldn't be dead, but apparently you take issue with saying if the police didn't screw up and grab the wrong person, compliance never would have been an issue.
The root problem here is that they had the wrong person, not that Patrick was non-compliant.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:11 pm to cas4t
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you just said "blow me"
First time. How many things have you said to me in just this thread?
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the only difference in the video is what grandma thinks.
Well, looks like you didn't watch the uncut videos.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:12 pm to LNCHBOX
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They cut out stuff in the beginning.
They did not cut out the officer asking Patrick for ID 3 times like claimed. The cop is a liar. Did anyone address the fact the cop said he asked for ID 3 times, then said he asked for ID 4 times when he didn't even ask once? He is a freaking liar and should be fired and probably prosecuted. If he is going to lie over this why should a judge trust his word in future cases.
The cops even claimed they had it on video after they were called out for not asking for ID. The cop said, "It's all on video we are going to go from that". Well the video shows they are liars and should be held accountable.
These are the cases the BLM crowd should be standing behind instead of the BS Sterling case.
This post was edited on 7/15/16 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:13 pm to LNCHBOX
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First time. How many things have you said to me in just this thread?
I don't care
I haven't said anything that isn't true. You are a fricking moron. I also upvoted the guy who told you to kill yourself. So there's that. quote:
Well, looks like you didn't watch the uncut videos.
I did. Please tell me what you saw that changes it so much, fricking moron.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:13 pm to slackster
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it doesn't change the fact that the police had the wrong guy.
Patrick should have told them.
quote:Not at first.
They asked his name, he answered it
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d the wrong guy. They asked his name, he answered it, it was the truth,
because he decided to not listen to them.
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You and others like to justify shootings by saying that if so and so complied they wouldn't be dead, but apparently you take issue with saying if the police didn't screw up and grab the wrong person, compliance never would have been an issue.
That's not true at all, but great analysis.
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The root problem here is that they had the wrong person
Which Patrick could have easily told them if he had cooperated.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:13 pm to Chad504boy
29 pages of arguing over what is essentially propaganda.
Michael Clay lives at that same house. So asking him what his name is and getting "uhhhhhh patrick" didn't start the interaction on the best of circumstances. The other three videos show there was a lot more talking and trying to manage the situation with little effect.
Obviously they had the wrong man, but Patrick didn't do himself any favors. The tactics style of policing and its resulting backlash are only intensifying
I do find it interesting that this epidemic of aggressive police behavior doesn't seem to affect other races nearly as much as blacks. I wonder if that means something?
Michael Clay lives at that same house. So asking him what his name is and getting "uhhhhhh patrick" didn't start the interaction on the best of circumstances. The other three videos show there was a lot more talking and trying to manage the situation with little effect.
Obviously they had the wrong man, but Patrick didn't do himself any favors. The tactics style of policing and its resulting backlash are only intensifying
I do find it interesting that this epidemic of aggressive police behavior doesn't seem to affect other races nearly as much as blacks. I wonder if that means something?
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:14 pm to LNCHBOX
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Neither does everyone saying they were.
If a cop tells you to stand up, turn around, and put your hands on the car for an unknown reason, it's pretty safe to assume that you're about to be arrested. Any rational person would agree.
If I'm walking down the street and a cop walks up to me and says to get up against the wall and put my hands up, I'm gonna go ahead and assume I'm being arrested.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:14 pm to LNCHBOX
The video shows the police officer blatantly lying that he requested ID from the guy, and that was the reason for escalation. He explicitly states that was why it got as wild as it did. They asked him his name, which he gave, in the first minute of their interaction, the rest was essentially a overreaction to the situation at hand by the police officer.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:14 pm to LNCHBOX
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Patrick should have told them.
He did, when he said "Patrick"
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Not at first.
he asked why they wanted to know, which is his right. 5 seconds later he told them his name.
Posted on 7/15/16 at 4:14 pm to cas4t
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I haven't said anything that isn't true.
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You are a fricking moron
So much for that.
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also upvoted the guy who told you to kill yourself. So there's that.
Well congrats on taking the internet seriously. Cool for you.
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Please tell me what you saw that changes it so much, fricking moron.
I'm good. You're not worth the hassle anymore.
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