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re: I keep hearing there is an opiod epidemic happening?

Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:03 am to
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:03 am to
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I tore my labrum about 5 years ago and had it fixed and my doctor gave me a bunch of oxycodone for the first few days and nearly a month's worth of hydrocodone. That was ridiculous. I probably needed 3-4 days of hydrocodone, and that's it.

That shite needs to stop.


Posted by Grim
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:03 am to
No one in your family is cool enough to be offered drugs
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:05 am to
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No one in your family is cool enough to be offered drugs



Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:06 am to
I definitely agree progress has been made, but there are still a lot of issues with the drug companies and them distributing the drugs to nefarious distributors.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:06 am to
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No one in your family is cool enough to be offered drugs


Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:06 am to
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Forgive me for being numb to an endless stream of PSA’s daily from the Ad Council and others.

In case you haven’t noticed, almost everything is a crisis these days.



okay, While the death rate is comparable to some other causes of death. Deaths from opioids and synthetic variants have tripled in the past 15 years
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:08 am to
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Do I think though that ultimately it is the responsibility of the person taking the drug as far as continuing to take the medication? Absolutely so.


Absolutely there is some personal responsibility involved. No question about it.

However, there are tens of thousands of addicts that just took exactly what their doctors told them they should take. Nothing more.

Responsibility can be spread around. Med schools have adapted a whole lot. The younger docs coming out are far more cautious in their prescription habits, but the older docs and the ones who knowingly pill-mill are still out there.


Posted by Legion of Doom
Old Metry
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:09 am to
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Pain in the arse to get legal pain medication these days


This. Now because of the Government cracking down on prescription drugs physicians are reluctant to write for narcotics. In fact I’ve had a family member have laparoscopic gall bladder surgery and the surgeon only wanted her to have NSAIDS post op. A lot of people who have used prescription meds for a long time can no longer get them. It pushes them to use illegal drugs where the purity and content of the drugs are suspect.
Posted by Grit-Eating Shin
You're an Idiot
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:10 am to
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Forgive me for being numb to an endless stream of PSA’s daily from the Ad Council and others.
What makes you sound especially ignorant is that you think it's only limited to those particular outlets. The opioid epidemic has been well-documented in all sorts of media for years now. It's not up to us to educate you.
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In case you haven’t noticed, almost everything is a crisis these days.
Anyone with their head not completely up their arse should be well-aware of the extents & severity of the opioid crisis.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:11 am to
It’s understandable that all these manufactured “ crisis of the day “ would make people skeptical. Even healthy. But the numbers are the numbers. Young, middle class white people are dropping like flies all over the country. I mean you don’t have to GAF, and you don’t have to subscribe to the belief that it is government business, but it’s happening whether you believe it or not.

Most people don’t busy themselves with what junkies do . Too many more pressing issues.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:11 am to
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I definitely agree progress has been made, but there are still a lot of issues with the drug companies and them distributing the drugs to nefarious distributors.


The 60 Minutes recently was pretty damning.

These drug companies are sending enough opiates to small pharmacies in rural towns to supply a city of 100,000+ prescriptions. Enough opiates to supply every member of the town with 10 years worth and the pharmacies are "running out" because they are pill-milling to addicts under the table.

And big pharma just keeps doing it.

Posted by The Torch
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:11 am to
Know a guy who snorted 100K in Oil/Gas money up his nose doing Oxy.

He had hell kicking it too
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:11 am to
Trump is gonna fix this for us guys, Sessions isn't his fault
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:14 am to
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A lot of people who have used prescription meds for a long time can no longer get them. It pushes them to use illegal drugs where the purity and content of the drugs are suspect.



So because they are addicted to these meds, we should keep giving them out?

I'm playing devil's advocate here because I am stuck when it comes to this debate. I get both sides. If they are addicted enough to pain killers that they are switching to heroin, that means they need rehab, not a doctor giving them more pills.

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In fact I’ve had a family member have laparoscopic gall bladder surgery and the surgeon only wanted her to have NSAIDS post op.


Have no problem with this. And I've had a couple painful surgeries.

Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:14 am to
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The 60 Minutes recently was pretty damning.


Yup. Big time government employees that spend years fighting drug companies end up working for the drug companies making huge amounts of money. They know exactly how to get around government regulations and investigations
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:17 am to
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In fact I’ve had a family member have laparoscopic gall bladder surgery and the surgeon only wanted her to have NSAIDS post op


I got a prescription pain med for mine. I took one pill the evening I got home but didn't take any after that. I just didn't feel like they were necessary, and I don't like taking medication unless there's no alternative. I'm also on the younger end of folks who have gallbladder surgery, so I'm sure that plays a part as well.

I still feel like a lot of doctors, at least the ones around this area, are still in a lot of ways pill pushers.

Posted by Legion of Doom
Old Metry
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:27 am to
I work in medicine and actually I agree with you. I think the flow of narcotics needs to be stopped to a drip- reserved for acute illness in the short term and end of life-like hospice. But I don’t think cutting people off without offering supervised detox and treatment is right either.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:29 am to
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Mostly poors.


The few people I know who died from it were young professionals.
Posted by DayBowBow
Member since Jun 2011
5060 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:30 am to
Come to Eastern Kentucky if you want to know about the opioid epidemic.

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Eleven drug stores, mostly independents, are scattered about a tiny city of 1,500 people. Many have opened in the past decade—four in the past three years. And prescription pain drugs are one of the best-selling items—the very best seller at some.

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Clay (counties) residents filled prescriptions for 2.2 million doses of hydrocodone and about 617,000 doses of oxycodone in the 12-month period ending last September—that’s about 150 doses for every man, woman, and child.


LINK
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 11:34 am to
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I work in medicine and actually I agree with you. I think the flow of narcotics needs to be stopped to a drip- reserved for acute illness in the short term and end of life-like hospice. But I don’t think cutting people off without offering supervised detox and treatment is right either.




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