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re: I hate snakes (bit 2 of my dogs) update - vengeance
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:04 am to BuckyCheese
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:04 am to BuckyCheese
Canebrake rattlers are fairly common in Louisiana, and they're deadly. The even more dangerous Eastern Diamondback rattlesnake may be now extinct in the state.
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Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:06 am to turnpiketiger
quote:Cats are literally nature's perfect killing machine.
Cats are natural killers. It’s actually impressive how a common house cat has that instinct and can flip a switch to murder pretty much whatever it wants. Birds, snakes, squirrels and lizards.
Even when fighting each other, there is no "just bullshittin' around".
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:06 am to BoogaBear
You made the right choice. I've learned that you can always make more money. Regret is a hell of a thing. Down the line you don't want to think to yourself "If only I had spent a few more dollars, maybe we could have shared several more years together."
(Of course, if the cost is going to put you in the poor house, that's a different story. I'm just saying if you can afford it - you do it.)
(Of course, if the cost is going to put you in the poor house, that's a different story. I'm just saying if you can afford it - you do it.)
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:07 am to BoogaBear
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Yorkie didn't make it.
Damn. So sorry. You have my deepest condolences.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:15 am to tarzana
quote:Last reported sighting was in early 90s I believe, they were NEVER that plentiful only a handful sightings ever all in washington and st tammany.
Canebrake rattlers are fairly common in Louisiana, and they're deadly. The even more dangerous Eastern Diamondback rattlesnake may be now extinct in the state.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:16 am to CP3forMVP
quote:be more concerned about great horned owls.... and yes I am serious.
I have two shih tzu's in the Gonzales area and I've seen snakes in my yard, so I need to do a better job looking out for them.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:24 am to psk_Vol
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US hospitals not being equipped to treat King Cobra bites of all things actually makes total sense. Like, how many hospitals in this country do we having stocking up on...*King Cobra* anti venom just in case?
I'm not sure about Cobras, but a Dr. in Dallas (as well as something I saw on Nat Geo maybe) said they use the same anti-venom for all species of pit vipers.
Cobra stuff may be similar enough to use as well.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:49 am to choupiquesushi
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A cat would have tortured that snake.
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Not a cottonmouth or timber.... not an adult one anyway.. bobcats don't frick with them.
house cats have been known to kill Cobras.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:50 am to Nutriaitch
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I'm not sure about Cobras, but a Dr. in Dallas (as well as something I saw on Nat Geo maybe) said they use the same anti-venom for all species of pit vipers.
Cobra stuff may be similar enough to use as well.
That's true for the most part. The majority of antivenoms don't use a single type of venom from a single species. It is a mixture of multiple venoms that can cover most bases. It is the reason why in most instances in the US doctors in the ER don't need to know what kind of snake bit you. The exception being the coral snake, because it is an entirely different venom.
If you're talking internationally, there are instances (and regions) where they need to know what species of snake bit you.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:51 am to Nutriaitch
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I'm not sure about Cobras, but a Dr. in Dallas (as well as something I saw on Nat Geo maybe) said they use the same anti-venom for all species of pit vipers.
Cobra stuff may be similar enough to use as well
Probably uncommon to stock much of any elapid anti-venom around here.
Corals are the only worry, and you gotta try real hard to get envenomated by one of those.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:56 am to LegendInMyMind
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That's true for the most part. The majority of antivenoms don't use a single type of venom from a single species. It is a mixture of multiple venoms that can cover most bases. It is the reason why in most instances in the US doctors in the ER don't need to know what kind of snake bit you. The exception being the coral snake, because it is an entirely different venom.
If you're talking internationally, there are instances (and regions) where they need to know what species of snake bit you.
yeah the guy didn't mention corals.
dude was giving a safety meeting on a job site because they had killed a handful of rattlers on the site in a short time leading up to that meeting.
said most ER's in that area kept anti-venom in stock. one of the guys asked if we needed to identify the snake.
that's when he told us they use same juice for any pit viper (and said that was only thing any where near us that would bite), so didn't need to know specific species.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 11:57 am to LegendInMyMind
This is as good a place as any to mention that if you or someone you are with are ever bitten by a viper you should never constrict or tie off the area. Doing so will 100% cause you more harm than good. You can't "suck out" the venom in any way. Just remain calm, grab your keys and phone, and make your way to the closest hospital. Call the ER on your way and let them know you are coming in with a venomous snake bite. Tell them the time of the bite and where it is located on the body.
Once you've been administered antivenom and you're stabilized, specifically ask your doctor/staff what their experience level of dealing with venomous snakebites is. You need to know that. Many doctors/staff with good intentions have harmed people via poor or flat-out wrong care when it comes to snakebites. Find out their experience and their plan if complications arise, then make a decision if you want to go elsewhere for care/treatment.
Once you've been administered antivenom and you're stabilized, specifically ask your doctor/staff what their experience level of dealing with venomous snakebites is. You need to know that. Many doctors/staff with good intentions have harmed people via poor or flat-out wrong care when it comes to snakebites. Find out their experience and their plan if complications arise, then make a decision if you want to go elsewhere for care/treatment.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 12:05 pm to BoogaBear
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$7,000 in so far and I'm not even sure we get both our boys back.
I'm going to go ahead and admit I'm a bad pet owner I guess.
Hope both you dogs make it through this, especially for that price.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 12:10 pm to BoogaBear
Damn...sorry to hear that. Sending prayers for your dogs
Posted on 3/26/24 at 12:17 pm to BoogaBear
My chocolate lab got bit by a moccasin in the neck.
She was fine 2 days later.
Unrelated, but 3 days after the snakebite, she ate a few double A batteries.
Just crapped em out.
She’s pretty much invincible.
She was fine 2 days later.
Unrelated, but 3 days after the snakebite, she ate a few double A batteries.
Just crapped em out.
She’s pretty much invincible.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 12:22 pm to Nutriaitch
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said most ER's in that area kept anti-venom in stock.
They do, or should. What they don't tell you is that more often than not that antivenom is expired, often many years past the expiration date. I don't know how many stories I've heard or read where people went to the ER with a snakebite and were given expired antivenom. Now, expired antivenom is certainly better than no antivenom, but they never know how degraded it may be, and they aren't going to discount the cost if it is expired and may not be as effective.
ETA: The majority of venom that is milked in the US, native or otherwise, doesn't go to antivenom production. It goes to pharmacological research facilities and labs. The research into the medicinal properties of snake venom is a booming field. There is such a demand that it has at times squeezed the supply of antivenom. There's big money in the snake venom business these days.
This post was edited on 3/26/24 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 3/26/24 at 12:28 pm to BoogaBear
Rat snakes, king snakes and corn snakes eat rattle snakes. You can buy young ones at little cost and once a few breeding pairs are established the venomous snakes disappear.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 12:32 pm to Auburn1968
7K wow
Really love them dogs.
Really love them dogs.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 12:45 pm to Fe_Mike
I read if you are bitten by a coral, you are in trouble bc we don’t have antivenin. So I’ve read.
Posted on 3/26/24 at 12:53 pm to LegendInMyMind
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They do, or should. What they don't tell you is that more often than not that antivenom is expired
sounds logical.
if I had to guess thoug, if any place would try to keep up to date it would be the outskirts of the DFW metroplex. A massive population center right on edge of prime Rattlesnake territory.
seems like that would be one of the areas most likely to run across bites.
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