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re: I had no idea African warriors were present at the Battle of Hastings in 1066...
Posted on 8/27/25 at 12:42 am to Jim Rockford
Posted on 8/27/25 at 12:42 am to Jim Rockford
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What if I told you there are Asian Civil War reenactors?
The incorrect Right Shoulder Shift grip amongst all in the pic is way more egregious
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:03 am to RollTide1987
Of course there were...
Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:13 am to tonydtigr
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The mental gymnastics and suspension of common sense here is astounding. It's become way too obvious that when you guys want something to be true very, very badly, you think all you have to do is figure out a way that it could possibly, in some universe of thought, have a minute chance of happening. Subsequently it must be represented prominently in film and or literature, or else someone is being a racist.
I am going to hold off on forming an opinion till I see Jackie Chan star in a retelling of the Spanish Inquisition.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 6:38 am to Stealth Matrix
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I'm not sure if there's any evidence of Africans in Britain in 1066, it's more like the realm of fanfic.
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Africans in Medieval England (1066 -1485)
The medieval English writer Richard Devizes describes London as being populated by ‘Garamantes’ (Moorish Africans), and ‘men from all nations’ that ‘fill all the houses.’ These Africans were described by various terms such as: ‘Black’, ‘Ethiopian’ (a word used at the time to describe all Africans), ‘Moor,’ and ‘Blackamoore.’ Other terms such as ‘Saracen’ were also used to refer to Africans, as well as people from elsewhere, such as Western Asia. Some of these terms are now considered derogatory.
Bartholomew was an African on the run in Nottingham in the 13th century. He is mentioned in the Pipe Roll (21 June, 1259), where he was called an ‘Ethiopian’ and a ‘Saracen.’ The Pipe Roll says, Bartholomew was brought to England by ‘Roger de Lyntin.’ The roll also gives ‘a mandate to arrest’ Bartholomew, for ‘running away from his said lord [Roger de Lyntin].’ Bartholomew may have been on his way to the city of Nottingham to escape his lord’s authority.
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Posted on 8/27/25 at 7:49 am to Celery
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Is it a terrible stretch? England and France weren’t so completely isolated and with Viking, Mediterranean and Moorish trade there were possibly African travelers, slaves, servants, traders, etc in both England and Normandy. Maybe they weren’t, but it’s not a totally unbelievable notion either.
Even google AI straight up says no. It’s extremely unlikely with no historical evidence. If they can’t make a case for something like this, it ain’t happening.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 8:12 am to chalmetteowl
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didnt the Romans fight wars in Africa?
Northern Africa, known as Carthage at the time. Carthaginians were not subsaharan.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 8:13 am to Corinthians420
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This is just a tv show. It isnt rewriting history. The goal is to entertain and tell a story, not to be used as a primary source for your term paper.
Politics are downstream from culture. If you think this just ends at a simple TV show, you’re a retard.
There are hundreds of thousands of people in the UK, mostly imports from the third world, that think non-white people built England. Thats not a coincidence.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 8:14 am to RollTide1987
Kings and warriors and sheeet
Posted on 8/27/25 at 8:35 am to CAD703X
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Kings and warriors and sheeet
We wuz Tudors n sheet
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:20 am to kciDAtaE
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:36 am to upgrayedd
Why does color matter so much, though? People will never, ever get over each other's color. We can't get around it. People will never just be People. Sad...
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:46 am to Whitey83
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Why does color matter so much, though?
Because black people didn’t fight at the Battle of Hastings
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:49 am to upgrayedd
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Because black people didn’t fight at the Battle of Hastings
you actually don't know this.
It is unlikely there were very many.
This post was edited on 8/27/25 at 10:54 am
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:56 am to Corinthians420
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you actually don't know this. It is unlikely there were very many.
Show me definitive evidence there were black people fighting there.
We’re not playing the diversity version of “God of the gaps”
Posted on 8/27/25 at 10:57 am to Corinthians420
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Because black people didn’t fight at the Battle of Hastings
you actually don't know this.
Its a damn good point to start.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 11:03 am to upgrayedd
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Show me definitive evidence there were black people fighting there.
Don't have any. They would have been the outliers so I don't see why it matters. If the screen portrays 9,990 of the combatants as white and 10 as black it isn't gonna change the history of the combatants
well maybe it will for you, but it matters not to history.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 11:08 am to Corinthians420
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Don't have any.
Of course you don’t. Even the exact location of the battle is still debated so the fact that you feel like you can pull this completely out of your arse and assume that black people were there is even more asinine. But, please, go on.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 11:10 am to upgrayedd
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assume that black people were there
Where did i assume that? I said we dont know that there were zero black people there.
You are the one claiming to have definitive knowledge that there were 0.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 11:13 am to Corinthians420
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Where did i assume that? I said we dont know that there were zero black people there. You are the one claiming to have definitive knowledge that there were 0.
There is zero evidence that there were black people there. I based my opinion on that simple fact. You’re saying it’s possible based on your feelings. That’s the difference. This isn’t difficult.
Posted on 8/27/25 at 11:15 am to Corinthians420
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you actually don't know this.
It is unlikely there were very many.
That's a huge stretch. There were only 10,000 - 20,000 combatants. And back then soldiering was a professional rank of chosen men.
And England was a newly formed country still going through it's growing pains. 30 years prior they were a collection of feuding tribes with an intense hostility towards any outsider.
William the Conqueror didn't so much "conquer" England as he did kill the current King and do a better job of consolidating the territory under one crown and one ruling authority. Though to be fair his predecessors had done a lot of the heavy lifting of fending off the most pressing concern and uniting force - invasions from Scandanavian raiders. That's a primary reason they lost the Battle of Hastings. They had just fought a major battle and had to immediately march many miles to fight another while exhausted.
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