re: I don't know how regular folk get by with multiple kids. The cost is absurd.

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Cut this cost and raise your own kids. The wife’s place is in the home raising the children. But…”we need two incomes”. No you don’t. You’re living above your means. Go live in a trailer.

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I’ll keep the 4500 sqft house but thanks for the advice.

All so that we can pay a ridiculous amount of taxes for shitty people to have 8 kids that they use as a revenue stream from the government that we must also support.

Imagine this concept, instead of the middle class having to support the grifters in addition to our own households, we just support our own. Wow!!! Things would be much different.

If they are alive and healthy it is a blessing and worth whatever the cost. Love them and do the best you can for them. It will all be worth it.

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If your kid is in daycare, how are their baby teeth that jacked up to need that much work?

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Shitty genetics?

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It's insanely expensive to have kids.

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It’s not. We make it that way. Read this thread. Most of what you read are optional expenses. We have chosen to lead opulent lifestyles,

Cut expenses by not going on vacations. Don’t do travel ball. It is destructive of family life anyway. For entertainment, send your kids outside to play. It’s cheap, and they will wind up better kids. Buy second hand cars. Do your own repairs and maintenance. Cut your own grass. Don’t go out to eat and don’t order out. Make your own dinners. Cut out most of the streaming expenses.

This is the way we did it, and those years were among the happiest and most fulfilling of our lives. I’m watching others do it today, including my son.

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My son takes an inhaler steroid that they think has contributed to cavities, which they have not warned us about. He is 3. I brush his teeth twice a day. Apparently you either have hard porcelain teeth or very permeable teeth. His is are not the hard kind. Young kids dont have as much enamel on their teeth.

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Ummm…those teeth will fall out and new, normal, strong ones will grow in behind them???

Sounds like when my kids dentist wanted to pull my sons tooth because it “has been in too long “ I asked ,”what happens in say Ethiopia where they don’t have this option ?”

Dentist says they just eventually fall out…

You can guess what I chose to do…