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re: i do not get the problem in meat packing plants.

Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:47 am to
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70474 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:47 am to
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have been in one and it would not be terribly difficult for people to keep their distance if needed.


you havent been in one if you think this.

restrooms, lunch room, packaging areas, hang line, reprocessing line, rehang line, etc are packed with people constantly
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 8:48 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:48 am to
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That makes more sense but would that make them easily replaceable? How much training to do what they do?



Let me drop a couple of dead pigs at your place with a YouTube tutorial on how to butcher them and see how well you do.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109023 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:49 am to
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I have been in one and it would not be terribly difficult for people to keep their distance if needed.



Having been in Tyson's plant over in Indiana, people are pretty much on top of each other. That's the nature of the job.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:50 am to
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Cold and low humidity. Lots of smooth stainless steel surfaces. The type of environment COVID likes to hang around in/on for days if not weeks.


Covid lives 2-3 days on stainless steel which is also easier to clean. The controlled humidity is an issue.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:50 am to
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Let me drop a couple of dead pigs at your place with a YouTube tutorial on how to butcher them and see how well you do.


In this hypothetical situation if I didn’t have a gubment check coming and it was the only way to feed my family. I would slaughter that pig better and faster than anything you’ve seen.

The government created this problem and preventing the problem from correcting itself.
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 8:51 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:51 am to
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The workers are migrants who live in the same rooms and homes.



And at some plants, they've been forced to still come into work, even if they were sick or showing symptoms. Several of the plants don't offer sick pay to these employees.
Posted by Anaximander
3524 Third St New Orleans, LA
Member since Jun 2018
3412 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:53 am to
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Let me drop a couple of dead pigs at your place with a YouTube tutorial on how to butcher them and see how well you do.



Having participated in more than one boucherie I think it would be a challenge but far from daunting.
Posted by X123F45
Dictated not Read
Member since Apr 2015
30048 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 8:59 am to
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Let me drop a couple of dead pigs at your place with a YouTube tutorial on how to butcher them and see how well you do.


Did you really just tell a guy from louisiana he couldn't butcher an animal?

It would be a party in less than an hour.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:00 am to
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That makes more sense but would that make them easily replaceable? How much training to do what they do?





There's a reason meat packing facilities have primarily hired poor immigrants for decades. The working conditions are notoriously horrid and the poor immigrants are much easier to take advantage of.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
45572 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:00 am to
It’s unions baw. They don’t want to work right now.
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15341 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:01 am to
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Think white male cheated on wife and they had 6 kids and she wants to get paid.


She needs to be able to buy her cigarettes.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
13434 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:14 am to
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unhygienic were these places that Covid spread so fast


I don't believe this aspect of it, but you have to think about how these facilities have to operate.

Most meatpacking is done in rooms that are cold, dark, and refrigerated for food safety concerns. So there is very little outside air circulating in the room. If you have someone that is sick or asymptomatic they can go into the room, they are able to start spreading the virus in the air. If you believe some studies, the cold and dark conditions give the virus a longer time to survive outside of its host.

Now to combat this, meatpacking plants should use better virus or medical-grade air filtration systems.

Test workers with rapid tests to limit exposure to those rooms.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:17 am to
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Let me drop a couple of dead pigs at your place with a YouTube tutorial on how to butcher them and see how well you do.


Having participated in more than one boucherie I think it would be a challenge but far from daunting.



Butchering aint an issue, making it look purty in them little packs is a whole other ball game.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
18173 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 9:30 am to
Every Spanish station is basically broadcasting 24/7 to just stay at home, and that the government will take care of them.

A lot of people do not know this, but almost all countries in central and South America are cradle to grave government assistance. It’s what they expect here too.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:13 am to
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Now to combat this, meatpacking plants should use better virus or medical-grade air filtration systems.

A few UV units in the plenums upstream of the air handlers would help IMMENSELY if they already don't have them. Hospitals typically have dedicated air handlers for their operating suites that are like the Ferraris of air handlers and a UV segment is one of the things that you often see them employ to help ensure the air is as pathogen free as possible. If it's good enough for an operating room, it's good enough for meat packing. Relatively cheap, too, when you consider how much money that plant is losing every day just by being shut down. What's a half million for a new air handler?
This post was edited on 5/1/20 at 11:15 am
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18953 posts
Posted on 5/1/20 at 11:26 am to
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big-government red tape that is susceptible to regulatory capture.
LOL. Look at you, a person who doesn’t understand the words you just typed.
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