i do not get the problem in meat packing plants.

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How unhygienic were these places that Covid spread so fast? I have been in one and it would not be terribly difficult for people to keep their distance if needed.

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That is not the issue, the $12hr employees making $1,000 a week to sit home is.

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Yeah that's part of it, but don't they have to be laid off to qualify?

Also, these employees are probably a lot of hispanics and they tend to live with a lot of people in the same tiny place. That's why so many have Covid.

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That makes more sense but would that make them easily replaceable? How much training to do what they do?

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Yeah that's part of it, but don't they have to be laid off to qualify?

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You have obviously never had to challenge an unemployment claim from an employer's side. Think white male cheated on wife and they had 6 kids and she wants to get paid. There's no getting out of it and that was before all this started. Unemployment office ain't got time to do anything other than rubber stamp applications right now

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i do not get the problem in meat packing plants.

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The problem is that our supply chain is a victim of big-government red tape that is susceptible to regulatory capture. It needs to be deregulated.

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Think white male cheated on wife and they had 6 kids and she wants to get paid.

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What does this have to do with unemployment?

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Yeah that's part of it, but don't they have to be laid off to qualify?

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No. All you literally have to do is tell your employer that you are scared for your life, then go home. Collect $25/hr.

It's ploy to increase profit margins, baw.

im friends with a higher up at the tyson packing plant in Northwest arkansas. the problem is/was 2 fold:

1. it has nothing to do with the hygiene IN the plant, but outside the plant. Most of the workers are immigrants who live in multi-family/ multi-generational houses and also do not follow social distancing rules. This has caused a number of workers to get sick and cant come to work.

2. my buddy told me like half of the counties these other plants are in have sheriffs and local officials up for re-election. Tyson may have lets say 3,000 employees in a plant and 40 of them have covid 19 and there are 70 cases in the county. They local officials want to shut the plant down to reduce the spread in their communities. And they have that authority. This was happening in all of the communities where people where up for election in order to show "leadership against big corporations." That was where the threat was in shutting down operations. He was hoping the president would declare the defense production act, which the president has now done.

All that said, hopefully the shortage has been curtailed

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How unhygienic were these places that Covid spread so fast?

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The workers are migrants who live in the same rooms and homes.

I interned at the Oscar Mayer bologna factory in Davenport IA back in the day ('06)

PPE use was good in the processing areas, but there are also a lot of employees packed into locker rooms at the beginning and ends of shift (can't leave with the PPE) and in the lunch rooms during lunch/breaks. Also, a lot of smokers and use of the common smoking areas. Which, since it was a union operation, were all synchronized to a strict schedule.