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re: I believe in global warming
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:42 am to reo45
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:42 am to reo45
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Unprecedented rain levels with last year over 80+ inches alone
my grandfather would always say "Cher, I never seen it rain so much as this year in all my life"... every year. Yet he knew nothing about global warming. 
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Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:45 am to fallguy_1978
quote:Lack of taxes probably ended the last ice age. Income taxes didn't start until 1913.
Why did the climate change 100000 years ago? Buffalo farts?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 11:50 am to fallguy_1978
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I do too. I also believe that there isn't anything we can do about it.
It's pretty hard to deny when you see the ice caps melting away.
The solution is green energy but to do so by cutting off fossil fuels is incredibly stupid.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:37 pm to fallguy_1978
I am sure with the age of the earth that it has happened before, perhaps many times. Like most everything, it is cyclic. Just a money grab for the usual con men/women.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:38 pm to fallguy_1978
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I do too. I also believe that there isn't anything we can do about it.
Exactly, don't try to stop it, that's impossible. Adapt to it and enjoy your new climate. The natural movement of the continents will change climate over millions of years. Why would you not expect that along with every other factor to cause subtle changes over even 100 years.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:42 pm to reo45
That's cool. I've been watching a lot of astronomy and geology based documentaries lately and I'm convinced we need to keep warming up before a massive volcano or meteorite plunges us into an ice age. Ice ages cause mass extension events but the planet warming a few degrees just makes life a little more miserable.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:49 pm to TejasHorn
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It is absolutely happening and accelerating and the evidence is far from “anecdotal” as other posters claim.
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Anyone can find anything online to support whatever they wish to believe or help them “stick it” to the other tribe.
Hmmmmmm
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:49 pm to reo45
Global warming is an inaccurate term. Its climate change and yes the climate has always changed. That's why we had the ice age at one time, etc. Anyone who denies that is probably just doing so because it has become a political position (created by the idiot Al Gore who was able to find away to profit from it).
Are we speeding up the process? It seems like we are. Anytime you put any type of toxic shite in something it will have an impact. Do you think cancer alley being in an area with a lot of chemical plants is coincidence?
With that said, I don't think the impact is as big as some people think it is. I also think that all of the shite we waste that ends up in land fields and water ways has an impact on us as well.. But I don't think not using straws will do anything.
Are we speeding up the process? It seems like we are. Anytime you put any type of toxic shite in something it will have an impact. Do you think cancer alley being in an area with a lot of chemical plants is coincidence?
With that said, I don't think the impact is as big as some people think it is. I also think that all of the shite we waste that ends up in land fields and water ways has an impact on us as well.. But I don't think not using straws will do anything.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 12:51 pm to reo45
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30 plus years
Truly a significant amount of time compared to the geologic age of the earth...great observation.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 1:18 pm to Mizz-SEC
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It's pretty hard to deny when you see the ice caps melting away.
What caused the ice age to go away?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 1:23 pm to reo45
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My lake use to overflow once every decade and those who owned it before I bought it said it "rarely flooded" but had done so a few times over the 40 years it was in their families ownership. It floods now every year for 4 years into wham.
What's upstream of that lake? If there has been a lot of development that could explain it. When forest or pastures are turned into subdivision the rain gets quickly into the rivers.
Beware, also, of looking at a ten year rain pattern and assuming it's part of a larger trend. It might not be. Weather patterns have always changed radically.
I'm not arguing against the global warming. But evidence for that needs to be average global surface temperatures, not rain in North Louisiana.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 1:26 pm to bamabkj
Were you a kid 3 years ago? Because it was fricking freezing then. Ever heard of a “mild winter”? Crazy concept I know but they’ve been mentioned in literature for 300+ years
Posted on 1/28/21 at 1:31 pm to reo45
Most people accept science and data on global warming now, many on this board and the nutjob board being exceptions of course.
There was a time, in Reagan’s first term, when the issue was taken more seriously by conservatives and republicans. With Reagan considering several actions. The elder Bush and his oil buddies put a stop to that when it got too far. It’s been politicized ever since.
There was a time, in Reagan’s first term, when the issue was taken more seriously by conservatives and republicans. With Reagan considering several actions. The elder Bush and his oil buddies put a stop to that when it got too far. It’s been politicized ever since.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 1:32 pm to reo45
Is the global climate changing? Yes.
Do humans impact that? Most likely, but it's more the fact that there are now almost 8 billion people than anything else. And we can primarily thank China and India for that.
Can I personally do anything about it? Nope.
Can humanity do anything about it? Not unless China and India are on board, and even then probably not.
The good news is that population growth has been slowing over the last 40-50 years.
Do humans impact that? Most likely, but it's more the fact that there are now almost 8 billion people than anything else. And we can primarily thank China and India for that.
Can I personally do anything about it? Nope.
Can humanity do anything about it? Not unless China and India are on board, and even then probably not.
The good news is that population growth has been slowing over the last 40-50 years.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:28 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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byproducts of human energy consumption, prevent heat from escaping the atmosphere.
Yes, they do. What’s your point? The USA could completely eliminate all forms of fossil fuel use, including wood fires, and live like pre-Neanderthal man, and still not have a measurable impact on climate change.
GFY!
Posted on 1/28/21 at 2:42 pm to TT9
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just listen to the people that have studied the climate over people that haven't.
Do you have “sucker” tattooed on your forehead?
Do you know how these people that “study” this phenomenon get paid?
I once had a lawyer tell me, “this is a business decision... I’ll defend either side of it, depending on what you decide. I’m YOUR lawyer. It’s just a matter of how many hours I will need to bill to defend your position.”
Same deal. These scientists have chosen a side, but they need a lot more money to be sure, and they need us to pay for it.
Posted on 1/28/21 at 3:57 pm to reo45
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I believe in global warming
Perhaps, but it is a climate issue, not a man made situation. Well, except maybe for China, that country is one big smokestack of polution!
Posted on 1/28/21 at 3:58 pm to reo45
I believe you’re an idiot
Posted on 1/28/21 at 4:02 pm to beerJeep
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Yasmin Butler
This has to be some weird bot right?
Posted on 1/28/21 at 4:47 pm to reo45
30 years of noticeable change versus 300 million years of scientifically validated change.
Yes, the climate changes every year and certain centuries you will see a significant shift from hot to cold or cold to hot. This movie has played over and over again for millions of years. 30 years is nothing.
Please read this: LINK
Do not read it if you are a liberal, it could make your head explode.
Yes, the climate changes every year and certain centuries you will see a significant shift from hot to cold or cold to hot. This movie has played over and over again for millions of years. 30 years is nothing.
Please read this: LINK
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Thus, not 11-year but bicentennial cycles of solar variations which are mainly defined by the corresponding considerable changes in the TSI are the dominating reason for climate changes ? long term geophysical effects, lasting for decades. In whole, the solar cycles are a key to our understanding of different cyclic variations in the nature and society.
We currently have an uninterrupted long observation series of the TSI S? since 1978, directly measured by several special space instruments. The amplitude of 11-year smoothed cyclic variations of the TSI at the maximum of the two century cycle was approximately equal to 1.0 W/m2 or 0.07% and it has been gradually decreasing since the beginning of 1990s.The 11-year cyclic variations of the TSI occur in relation to the component of its 2-century variation, which was for the first time revealed by us in 2005.
Do not read it if you are a liberal, it could make your head explode.
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Abdussamatov H.I. The Sun Dictates the Climate. Fourth International Conference on Climate Change in Chicago, May 2010: LINK ]
"The sun dictates the climate", was taught to 3rd graders in the past, but not any more. Now they teach "Man dictates the climate" without verified scientific data.
Teach your children the truth early or you will allow them to be taught a lie.
[quote]The observed changes in annual average global temperature since 1998 and the expected tendency of the temperature changes over the period 2009–2014 in relation to the mean temperature of 1961–1990 years which was equal to +14 Celsius degrees.
Nowadays, a few years before the beginning of the upcoming global cooling, we are going through an unstable phase when the temperature will oscillate around the reached maximum without any substantial increase. In 2008 the global temperature on our planet not only did not rise but even fell down due to the decreasing (and record low over 30 years of observations from space) solar luminosity. The stabilization of the global Earth temperature in 1998–2005 and its downward tendency in 2006–2008 is an irrefutable evidence of the fact that our Sun is no longer able to warm the Earth the same way as in the past and that an anthropogenic global warming is a big myth. 1998–2005, being the warmest years for 150 years of weather observations, will stay on the peak of 2-century warming. By the middle of the ongoing century, the new (19th for the last 7500 years) little ice age similar to the Maunder one, will come. The global temperature will fall even without limitation of greenhouse gases emission by industrialized states. That is why the Kyoto treaty is useless so far and should be put off till at least 150 years later. However, climate changes on the planet will spread unevenly depending on the latitude. The fall of temperature will least affect the equatorial region of the Earth and will mostly influence the temperate climate regions. In whole, climate changes are not under the control of humans. A reasonable way to combat these changes is to maintain an economic growth in order to get prepared to alternating coolings and warmings. The coming global cooling will be replaced by a regular 2-century global warming only by the beginning of XXII century.
The known course of global temperature change over the period from 1850 to 2008 in relation to the average temperature of 1961–1990 which was equal to +14 Celsius degrees.
The upcoming cooling will lead to a substantial decrease of concentrations of water vapour (the main greenhouse gas) and carbon dioxide in the atmosphere as these concentrations are directly dependent on the temperature. The global cooling will also lead to the extension of the total area of ice and snow cover ? to the rise of the mean albedo of the underlying surface. Due to the above changes, the amount of absorbed solar energy by the whole underlying surface of the Earth and the share of greenhouse effect will considerably decrease.
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