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re: I am glad I was not born early enough to fight in the First World War

Posted on 9/27/26 at 6:53 pm to
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 9/27/26 at 6:53 pm to
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Fort Douaumont at Verdun
Been there twice, once with my adult son.

I really realized how many fathers and sons lives ended or were horribly impacted there.

If you get the chance go; research it before you go. So sad.
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
17147 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 7:08 pm to
How many American soldiers fought in both world wars?

Why do we let politicians screw up then send us to get blown up?
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
16263 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 7:53 pm to
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How many American soldiers fought in both world wars?

One of my grandfathers was barely too young to fight in WWI and was too old for WW2. It really bothered him because he felt like he missed out.

Another relative fought in WWI. He said people would want to be buddies with country boys because most knew how to handle a rifle. He also said if they ever tried to make him fight in another war, they’d never take him alive.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
75178 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 7:53 pm to
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For the British this is certainly true. However, what people don't realize is that August 22, 1914, was even worse for the French. No one knows exactly how many total casualties there were on that day for the French army, but the number of KIA is fairly certain: 27,000.


The French Army suffered horrendous losses from start to finish. The true extent of their losses was hidden by the French Army (which had absolute control on all information coming from the frontlines) from everyone, including the French government, the French people and their British allies. Had the actual French losses been known, France probably would have been forced to sue for peace by 1916.

Verdun is a prime example. History books tells us about “The” Battle of Verdun and it was a German offensive. But in reality, between the Verdun and Champaign sectors (combined they represented about 40 miles of front) the French Army launched 6 major offensives between 1914 and 1917, all of which gained absolutely nothing and cost the French an estimated one million casualties, and that’s in just these two sectors alone.. By 1918, the US Army was taking over these sectors. So really, most of the French losses in this sector happened between 1914 and 1917. It wasn’t until the 1930s that the public learned the extent of losses the French Army suffered there.

Try wrapping your mind around this. The Verdun-Champagne sectors consisted 40 miles of the frontlines held by French forces. In total, the French Army held about 400 miles of front. So these two sectors represented roughly 10% of the French frontline. Total French casualties for all sectors of the Western front between 1914 & 1917 (remember in 1918 this sector was being taken over by the Americans) is estimated to be between 4.3 and 4.5 million men.

So, the Verdun-Champagne Sectors, despite representing only 10% of the frontline held by the French Army, produced almost 25% of all French casualties during the period of 1914 to 1917.

And not even the French government knew about the extent of the senseless slaughter there until years after the war was over.

BTW, the frontline in the Verdun-Champagne sector moved between 1 to 5 miles back and forth between 1914 and 1917. When American forces began taking over this area in 1918, the frontline was basically identical to that of 1914.
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10791 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 7:55 pm to
No one should have been in that war. The Great War was the greatest waste of life in military history.
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
11080 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 8:30 pm to
Plan a full day at the WW1 museum in KC. Maybe two. It's awesome.
This post was edited on 9/27/26 at 8:35 pm
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
12822 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 8:34 pm to
It was supposed to be the war to end all wars.

Didn’t work out.
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1839 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 8:35 pm to
One downvote in every reply. Hmmm.
Posted by csorre1
Member since Apr 2010
7374 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 8:40 pm to
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A before and after photo of Fort Douaumont at Verdun in 1916 shows why. Look at this shite.


Not that I'm complaining but this is from Epic History YouTube's post yesterday.
Posted by okietiger
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Member since Oct 2005
42862 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 8:46 pm to
More people died in WW2 obviously. Because there were so many massive theaters, it was the most deadly.

But I’ll contend that WW1 would have been the worst war to be apart of. Highly recommend Dan Carlin’s hardcore history on WW1. It was chilling. What Germany artillery did to Belgium in particular is hard to fathom, for one example.

Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6663 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 8:51 pm to
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No one should have been in that war. The Great War was the greatest waste of life in military history.


The CW says hold my beer.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
15065 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 8:57 pm to
Which War would you like to have fought in?

My Father in Law fought in WW II. Fought in the Battle of the Bulge. The most severe injury ,that he received, occurred in Boot Camp. They had a training drill for the proper use of a Gas Mask. Instead of Tear Gas, Mustard gas was used. There was a screw up and several soldiers died. My Father in Law lived but the VA removed a lobe of one Lung in 1959, about fourteen years after his discharge.

The Govt doesn't care. At the beginning of WW II, the submarines didn't have reliable torpedos. In fact, the most successful Submarine Commander, Capt Sam Dealey, died as the result of a faulty torpedo, fired from his submarine.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
75178 posts
Posted on 9/27/26 at 9:02 pm to
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The Govt doesn't care. At the beginning of WW II, the submarines didn't have reliable torpedos. In fact, the most successful Submarine Commander, Capt Sam Dealey, died as the result of a faulty torpedo, fired from his submarine.


Ah, The notorious Mk.14 torpedo. Yeah. It was absolutely useless. Ran too deep and had a faulty trigger that resulted in dud rates north of 75%.

But don’t blame the government. Blame the US Navy Ordnance Board. They not only gave the Mk.14 the green light, they actually fought to keep it as it was even after frontline naval commanders made it clear the damned thing didn’t work.
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