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re: I always thought Musk was a phony
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Link? I know he makes you moist...
Meh. I think he’s a smart guy who has accomplished some very interesting things. Legitimate criticism is fine, but yours don’t make sense. They’re irrational, so I can only assume that they’re based on some irrational hatred.
Look at what you’ve posted in this very thread. Talking about deductions that are available to everyone, when that statement is demonstrably false.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
You said offered to everyone. Period.
Now you clarify that there is a stipulation and it’s not offered to everyone.
Which is it?
Now you clarify that there is a stipulation and it’s not offered to everyone.
Which is it?
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 11:27 am
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:27 am to Sao
quote:Ignore, does not fit narrative!!!
And the SOB paid back his auto subsidy! Name one dude who pays back a child tax credit or any deduction in the "tax code"
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:28 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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Teslas incentives are available to anyone who wants to produce electric cars so you're reasoning is incorrect at best.
Government credits for purchasing, yes. GOvernment money infused into his company, no.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:28 am to shel311
And he called me a drama queen because I said he hates him.
It’s clear that he does since he’s ignoring everything that goes against his narrative. It’s irrational.
It’s clear that he does since he’s ignoring everything that goes against his narrative. It’s irrational.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Government credits for purchasing, yes. GOvernment money infused into his company, no.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:29 am to TH03
quote:I'm still trying to hear a post that explains why it's different, not just that it's different and if you disagree you're retarded.
You said offered to everyone. Period.
Now you clarify that there is a stipulation and it’s not offered to everyone.
Which is it?
There are tax breaks for families with children. If you have a child, you can take advantage of said tax breaks. There are tax breaks offered for carmakers who make electric cars. If you make electric cars, you can take advantage of said tax breaks. What's the difference?
And why are we ignoring that other automakers are getting way more subsidies than Tesla? That doesn't matter in people's opinions that Musk survives on subsidies?
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 11:30 am
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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GOvernment money infused into his company, no.
Explain why not.
Please consider in your explanation that it happens quite literally daily.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
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That's offered to everyone with kids and is part of the tax code? Yep.
I guess I have a different tax code than you. Have you read the provision? The credit phases out.
You can’t even argue a point based on an understanding of the topic.
Like I said, irrational hatred.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:29 am to Mo Jeaux
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Talking about deductions that are available to everyone, when that statement is demonstrably false.
Do you negotiate exemptions?
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:30 am to shel311
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There are tax breaks for families with children. If you have a child, you can take advantage of said tax breaks. There are tax breaks offered for carmakers who make electric cars. If you make electric cars, you can take advantage of said tax breaks. What's the difference?
“Not even remotely similar but I won’t explain why.”
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:30 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Government credits for purchasing, yes. GOvernment money infused into his company, no.
holy moly
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:30 am to Geekboy
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Then in May, the NTSB announced an investigation after two teenagers were killed in a Tesla Model S after its battery caught fire following a crash. A similar accident claimed a driver two months prior, with California firefighters reporting that the Tesla battery kept reigniting itself days after the smash.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:31 am to TH03
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There are tax breaks offered for carmakers who make electric cars
You seem to be under the failed understanding this is the limit of Musks government funding.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Do you negotiate exemptions?
I'll ask again, are you barred from doing so? I can't take the child tax credit because I don't have kids.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:32 am to TH03
quote:In fairness to Roger, on this page, he finally attempted to explain why.
“Not even remotely similar but I won’t explain why.”
But it was a poor attempt and is getting laughed at, so there's that too.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You seem to be under the failed understanding this is the limit of Musks government funding.
Damn my guess was so close to what you actually posted.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:32 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Do you negotiate exemptions?
Non sequitur.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:34 am to shel311
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I"m not even sure that he's actually promised this?
But at any rate, changing the world kinda takes time, it's not something you do in 5 years.
No shite, did you see the part where I said the article was disingenuous?
Point being, Tesla gets more scrutiny over most other companies because of what their technology means to the world. That's just a fact whether it's warranted or not.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:34 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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I can't take the child tax credit because I don't have kids.
Tax credit =/= lower than market rate government loans
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