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re: I always thought Musk was a phony

Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:27 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64554 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:27 am to
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Link? I know he makes you moist...


Meh. I think he’s a smart guy who has accomplished some very interesting things. Legitimate criticism is fine, but yours don’t make sense. They’re irrational, so I can only assume that they’re based on some irrational hatred.

Look at what you’ve posted in this very thread. Talking about deductions that are available to everyone, when that statement is demonstrably false.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:27 am to
You said offered to everyone. Period.

Now you clarify that there is a stipulation and it’s not offered to everyone.

Which is it?
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 11:27 am
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:27 am to
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And the SOB paid back his auto subsidy! Name one dude who pays back a child tax credit or any deduction in the "tax code"

Ignore, does not fit narrative!!!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:28 am to
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Teslas incentives are available to anyone who wants to produce electric cars so you're reasoning is incorrect at best.


Government credits for purchasing, yes. GOvernment money infused into his company, no.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:28 am to
And he called me a drama queen because I said he hates him.

It’s clear that he does since he’s ignoring everything that goes against his narrative. It’s irrational.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:29 am to
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Government credits for purchasing, yes. GOvernment money infused into his company, no.



Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:29 am to
quote:

You said offered to everyone. Period.

Now you clarify that there is a stipulation and it’s not offered to everyone.

Which is it?
I'm still trying to hear a post that explains why it's different, not just that it's different and if you disagree you're retarded.

There are tax breaks for families with children. If you have a child, you can take advantage of said tax breaks. There are tax breaks offered for carmakers who make electric cars. If you make electric cars, you can take advantage of said tax breaks. What's the difference?


And why are we ignoring that other automakers are getting way more subsidies than Tesla? That doesn't matter in people's opinions that Musk survives on subsidies?
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 11:30 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:29 am to
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GOvernment money infused into his company, no.


Explain why not.

Please consider in your explanation that it happens quite literally daily.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64554 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:29 am to
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That's offered to everyone with kids and is part of the tax code? Yep.


I guess I have a different tax code than you. Have you read the provision? The credit phases out.

You can’t even argue a point based on an understanding of the topic.

Like I said, irrational hatred.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Talking about deductions that are available to everyone, when that statement is demonstrably false.


Do you negotiate exemptions?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:30 am to
quote:

There are tax breaks for families with children. If you have a child, you can take advantage of said tax breaks. There are tax breaks offered for carmakers who make electric cars. If you make electric cars, you can take advantage of said tax breaks. What's the difference?


“Not even remotely similar but I won’t explain why.”
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31596 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:30 am to
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Government credits for purchasing, yes. GOvernment money infused into his company, no.


holy moly
Posted by tss22h8
30.4 N 90.9 W
Member since Jan 2007
18793 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:30 am to
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Then in May, the NTSB announced an investigation after two teenagers were killed in a Tesla Model S after its battery caught fire following a crash. A similar accident claimed a driver two months prior, with California firefighters reporting that the Tesla battery kept reigniting itself days after the smash.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:31 am to
quote:

There are tax breaks offered for carmakers who make electric cars


You seem to be under the failed understanding this is the limit of Musks government funding.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:32 am to
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Do you negotiate exemptions?


I'll ask again, are you barred from doing so? I can't take the child tax credit because I don't have kids.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112944 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:32 am to
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“Not even remotely similar but I won’t explain why.”

In fairness to Roger, on this page, he finally attempted to explain why.

But it was a poor attempt and is getting laughed at, so there's that too.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:32 am to
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You seem to be under the failed understanding this is the limit of Musks government funding.


Damn my guess was so close to what you actually posted.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64554 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:32 am to
quote:

Do you negotiate exemptions?


Non sequitur.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
17102 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:34 am to
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I"m not even sure that he's actually promised this?

But at any rate, changing the world kinda takes time, it's not something you do in 5 years.


No shite, did you see the part where I said the article was disingenuous?

Point being, Tesla gets more scrutiny over most other companies because of what their technology means to the world. That's just a fact whether it's warranted or not.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:34 am to
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I can't take the child tax credit because I don't have kids.


Tax credit =/= lower than market rate government loans
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