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re: I always thought Musk was a phony
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:20 am to Roaad
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:20 am to Roaad
quote:Yea, that's kinda the point when people attack the Musk/Tesla subsidies.
Or eat food from American farms.
And, since Tariffs will force prices of American goods artificially higher. . .basically anything.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:20 am to Scruffy
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The overall point is that Musk’s company does not meet the market value it is currently holding due to certain outside forces, i.e. federal money.
Musk relies on subsidies for all of his businesses. Hell, his Solar City project bought panels from a sub who used prison labor at less than a dollar an hour.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:21 am to TH03
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Roger and CAD a have a hard on for hating Musk for some reason.
Here's the drama queen.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:21 am to Sao
quote:But did you?
Don't get mad at me for simply disputing a stupid article and topic.
Where?
quote:Do I seem upset?
Did I upset you by correlating Trump which began with a quote re: promoting oneself to thrive in business?
I am more fascinated by your collectivist view of respect, and your implication that you get it from television news sources.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:21 am to shel311
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When he does it it's bad, but when I do the same thing
That's just retarded.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:21 am to rintintin
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The real con with Musk is that he's figured out how to dupe the gov't and get tax payers to pay for much of his work
quote:They do the same,a nd they do it more than Tesla, and Tesla is the only one to have paid monies back with interest. But...he's duping the government!!!!
Call him a fraud because of that if you want, but every company out there would do the same if they could, not to mention many indeed do the same.
quote:I"m not even sure that he's actually promised this?
The difference with him is that he has promised to change the world with his technology, so he's constantly under the microscope, and to this point has not really delivered.
But at any rate, changing the world kinda takes time, it's not something you do in 5 years.
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 11:22 am
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:22 am to RogerTheShrubber
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That are available to everyone, yes.
So of you have kids you don't take the child tax credit? Or if you were in school you wouldn't take the lifetime learning deduction? Or the student loan interest deduction? Or the mortgage interest deduction? Not everyone has kids, or went/goes to college or has a mortgage.
What a stupid fricking take.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:22 am to Mo Jeaux
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get that he makes you mad.
Link?
I know he makes you moist...
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:23 am to Mingo Was His NameO
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So of you have kids you don't take the child tax credit?
That's offered to everyone with kids and is part of the tax code? Yep.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:23 am to Roaad
I think we are lost in translation somewhere. I've responded since PG 1. All I can do.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:That's rich
That's just retarded.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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That's offered to everyone with kids
I thought you said it was offered to everyone, period?
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:24 am to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:One might even say, retarded even.
So of you have kids you don't take the child tax credit? Or if you were in school you wouldn't take the lifetime learning deduction? Or the student loan interest deduction? Or the mortgage interest deduction? Not everyone has kids, or went/goes to college or has a mortgage.
What a stupid fricking take.
BUT IT'S DIFFERENT!!!
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:24 am to RogerTheShrubber
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take tax exemptions that are offered to everyone. Not remotely related.
It’s the same principle.
The subsidies and breaks Musk receives are available to anyone willing to do what he has done.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:25 am to TH03
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I thought you said it was offered to everyone, period?
It's part of the tax code.
Do you negotiate your tax credits?
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
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That's offered to everyone with kids
Exactly and you said you only take credits or deductions offered to everyone.
Teslas incentives are available to anyone who wants to produce electric cars so you're reasoning is incorrect at best.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:So these subsidies were offered to Tesla only, no one else?
That's offered to everyone with kids and is part of the tax code? Yep.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:25 am to TH03
quote:Goalposts have definitely moved, no question.
I thought you said it was offered to everyone, period?
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:26 am to Salmon
And the SOB paid back his auto subsidy! Name one dude who pays back a child tax credit or any deduction in the "tax code" 
Posted on 7/22/18 at 11:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Do you negotiate your tax credits?
Are you explicitly barred from doing so?
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