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re: Hurricane Milton - The Cleanup Begins...
Posted on 10/5/24 at 6:57 pm to Wally Sparks
Posted on 10/5/24 at 6:57 pm to Wally Sparks
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In-laws have a condo on Longboat Key and this would probably send it into the Gulf. Hope it doesn’t track that way
Right now, Long Boat Key is probably in the worst possible place it could be if the track holds.
South of the eye
Posted on 10/5/24 at 6:58 pm to BluegrassBelle
Heading out to Walmart now to stock up on some items before things get crazy. I'm here in Orlando (not far from Disney at all) and we dodged Helene for the most part. Hardly any impacts. Even being inland a good 65 miles inland that west to east track has always been the path that's scared me for Orlando.
I was here during Irma when the eye went right over Disney. It was still a strong Cat 2 / low Cat 3 as it came up from Naples. Luckily I'm not near any rivers that flood a lot and our power is underground. I'm also near a hospital so I'm on the grid system. My hope is if it does come over Orlando it's a Cat 1 at most and the damage is minimal.
If that path follows and it's a major, it could easily be the end of the coastal insurance outside of businesses. I could easily see insurance agencies flat out not insuring anything in Florida west of I-75 and I-275 (for Tampa area) and anything in Florida east of I-95 on the east coast. I really hope that track doesn't happen. The worse scenario for Orlando has always been a hurricane coming in right around Tampa and just going straight west to east across the state, especially if it comes in right at Tampa and we're on the eastern eyewall side like we were with Irma.
Hoping it goes south as it would mean it would go over very unpopulated land in the middle of the state though that means another terrible hit for places like Sarasota/Port Charlotte.
The only good thing here in Florida is more and more places are being build on or east of I-75 around The Villages, Ocala and Gainesville and on or west of I-95 around Jacksonville, Palm Coast, Daytona Beach, and Port Saint Lucie.
I was here during Irma when the eye went right over Disney. It was still a strong Cat 2 / low Cat 3 as it came up from Naples. Luckily I'm not near any rivers that flood a lot and our power is underground. I'm also near a hospital so I'm on the grid system. My hope is if it does come over Orlando it's a Cat 1 at most and the damage is minimal.
If that path follows and it's a major, it could easily be the end of the coastal insurance outside of businesses. I could easily see insurance agencies flat out not insuring anything in Florida west of I-75 and I-275 (for Tampa area) and anything in Florida east of I-95 on the east coast. I really hope that track doesn't happen. The worse scenario for Orlando has always been a hurricane coming in right around Tampa and just going straight west to east across the state, especially if it comes in right at Tampa and we're on the eastern eyewall side like we were with Irma.
Hoping it goes south as it would mean it would go over very unpopulated land in the middle of the state though that means another terrible hit for places like Sarasota/Port Charlotte.
The only good thing here in Florida is more and more places are being build on or east of I-75 around The Villages, Ocala and Gainesville and on or west of I-95 around Jacksonville, Palm Coast, Daytona Beach, and Port Saint Lucie.
This post was edited on 10/5/24 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:03 pm to MountaineerPatriot
Honestly the long term solution might be the let the barrier islands return to their natural state. Keep the barrier islands open as State Parks and National Parks. Canaveral National Seashore between Daytona Beach and Cocoa Beach is the largest part of undeveloped coastal land in Florida and should probably be followed in a lot of the barrier islands. Honeymoon Island State Park near Clearwater is another good example.
It would be billions and the federal government would have to be involved, but it might be best long term. Plus it lets the beaches be for everyone and not just the rich who own those condos/homes right on the coast and try to restrict access to the public.
It should've started with Sanibel Island. Buy out all the homeowners and turn the barrier island into a state park and charge admission for the public to bring in money. For those who refuse, force them to self insure and pay for everything if their house is destroyed. That's been the biggest problem in Florida. All homeowners having to pay for repairs for rich people's homes on the beach and all the second homes and vacation homes right on the beach.
It would be billions and the federal government would have to be involved, but it might be best long term. Plus it lets the beaches be for everyone and not just the rich who own those condos/homes right on the coast and try to restrict access to the public.
It should've started with Sanibel Island. Buy out all the homeowners and turn the barrier island into a state park and charge admission for the public to bring in money. For those who refuse, force them to self insure and pay for everything if their house is destroyed. That's been the biggest problem in Florida. All homeowners having to pay for repairs for rich people's homes on the beach and all the second homes and vacation homes right on the beach.
This post was edited on 10/5/24 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:08 pm to MountaineerPatriot
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Honestly the long term solution might be the let the barrier islands return to their natural state
Man I want to be around when they tell the millions that live there about that one
Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:13 pm to LanierSpots
Not loving these models right now, but I know it can shift a lot.
Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:25 pm to LanierSpots
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Right now, Long Boat Key is probably in the worst possible place it could be if the track holds.
That entire stretch from AMI to Siesta Key would likely be toast.
Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:34 pm to LanierSpots
Damn, Lanier. I was hoping they would cut all of those beaches into 50'x100' lots. You and I could go in half, put in a couple camper pads, elec., and sewer hook ups, for campers. Then when the hurricanes come, we tow and GTFO, like we live in Cameron, LA.
ETA: No insurance required for a pad. That baw that keeps crying can easse his mind.
ETA: No insurance required for a pad. That baw that keeps crying can easse his mind.
This post was edited on 10/5/24 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:41 pm to LanierSpots
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when they tell the millions that live there about that one
Might not have to tell them. eventually people will just be too beaten down and leave on their own accord and maybe with a buyout from the state/fed.
This might sound really insensitive, but if you build a new place right on the beach, you should be forced to carry insurance to cleanup the beach when your home gets scattered everywhere. State and Fema should not bear the cleanup costs of your decision to live in a precarious place.
Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:46 pm to Turnblad85
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This might sound really insensitive, but if you build a new place right on the beach, you should be forced to carry insurance to cleanup the beach when your home gets scattered everywhere. State and Fema should not bear the cleanup costs of your decision to live in a precarious place.
Then you see the simplistic brilliance of my plan. A concrete pad, fence, and RV hookups. No worries.
Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:49 pm to DrewDawg13
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Not loving these models right now,
Here are some models we can love

Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:50 pm to Hangit
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concrete pad, fence, and RV hookups. No worries.
Oh I've long since thought those areas would be better suited for RV parks/state parks. Though invariably people are going to leave rvs behind and build sheds, ect that make for a mess when a storm comes through.
Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:52 pm to Hangit
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Then you see the simplistic brilliance of my plan. A concrete pad, fence, and RV hookups. No worries
Plenty of those along the TX, LA, MS coast
Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:53 pm to Turnblad85
All the latest model runs have shifted to landfall a good bit north of Tampa bay
Some hurricane models are getting it down to Cat 5 territory but weakening rapidly prior to landfall
HMON gets it to 920mb but is around 970 at landfall
Some hurricane models are getting it down to Cat 5 territory but weakening rapidly prior to landfall
HMON gets it to 920mb but is around 970 at landfall
Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:54 pm to Turnblad85
Honestly, concrete high rises are the way to go
Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:55 pm to Hangit
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Damn, Lanier. I was hoping they would cut all of those beaches into 50'x100' lots. You and I could go in half, put in a couple camper pads, elec., and sewer hook ups, for campers. Then when the hurricanes come, we tow and GTFO,
Im in. A 8 foot pop up and Im solid.
Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:58 pm to deltaland
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Here are some models we can love
Back before the bowed to body "positivity"
Posted on 10/5/24 at 7:59 pm to deltaland
7,5,1,4,8,2,3,9,6
Or just do #7 till I pass out
Or just do #7 till I pass out
Posted on 10/5/24 at 8:01 pm to LanierSpots
We moved onto Palma Sola around 79-80; 2nd or 3rd owner. Parents moved out around 2000. I was only in it full-time for ~2yrs before going off to college. Great place to live but many of the bay homes from then have been torn down and replaced by McMansions. I'm over 60 so have found memories of the "small town" .....
Appreciate the offer though. We live up here in Navarre but still have family and friends scattered throughout Bradenton area. Some on the water.
Will be following closely.
Appreciate the offer though. We live up here in Navarre but still have family and friends scattered throughout Bradenton area. Some on the water.
Will be following closely.
Posted on 10/5/24 at 8:02 pm to IMSA_Fan
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concrete high rises are the way to go
Not sure why we build the way we do near large bodies of water. Our house in mexico is made out of pure concrete and it's not even that close to the water. That fricking thing would need a large bomb to take it out
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