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re: Hurricane Irma - Spinning Down

Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:54 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

So the way I understand it, the center of the cone is the probable track. The reason for the cone is to account for the historical error in forecasting atlantic hurricanes. If error occurs, and the center of the storm moves to one side of the cone or the other, when they release the updated cone, it is then adjusted to show a new probable track.

Is that even close to how it works?


Yes, but they release a new cone every 3 hours, even they nailed it the previous time. The cone is 120 hours of projections, so 3 hours later, they need to add to the end of the projection.

The cone HAS to shrink based on their methodology - the margin for error at 48 hours is less than the margin at 72 hours. The tail end of the cone will always change as they add hours to the new forecast.

If you look at the cone in this link, you can isolate any of the previous 42 or so projections, then check it against the actual location of Irma 120 hours later. You'll notice she's always inside of the cone from 120 hours ago.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:54 pm to
quote:


My parents hunkered down at home. Just had a tornado steam by close to the house a few miles away


Jesus man. Where are they? They are going to be in for a long night.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:55 pm to
Tornado Warning

CIty of Weston
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41743 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

what city?


Weston, FL. They'll be fine
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131404 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:55 pm to
This erica navarro chick is thick but bangable
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13090 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:55 pm to
quote:


Yes, but they release a new cone every 3 hours, even they nailed it the previous time. The cone is 120 hours of projections, so 3 hours later, they need to add to the end of the projection.

The cone HAS to shrink based on their methodology - the margin for error at 48 hours is less than the margin at 72 hours. The tail end of the cone will always change as they add hours to the new forecast.

If you look at the cone in this link, you can isolate any of the previous 42 or so projections, then check it against the actual location of Irma 120 hours later. You'll notice she's always inside of the cone from 120 hours ago




Thats how I understood it to work. I'm not so good with the words though. Thanks man.
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
41993 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

All that water is now headed to Florida (Dramatic video of water retreat from Bahamas islands)


That's some Tsunami shite right there.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:57 pm to
No problem.
Posted by heatom2
At the plant, baw.
Member since Nov 2010
13090 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

This erica navarro chick is thick but bangable


You back off my woman baw.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:58 pm to
4PM Adv

125 mph
Cat 3
933 mb
WNW @ 9 mph
Next Adv 7pm CST
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

All that water is now headed to Florida (Dramatic video of water retreat from Bahamas islands)




The comments in that video are hilarious. Someone said the guy needs to take cover because a storm surge is on the way. She obviously thinks it is a tsunami.
Posted by lsuman25
Erwinville
Member since Aug 2013
43290 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:58 pm to
...EYE OF IRMA BEGINNING TO MOVE SLOWLY AWAY FROM THE COAST OF CUBA WHILE WEATHER IS DETERIORATING IN SOUTH FLORIDA... ...MAJOR HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXPECTED OVER THE FLORIDA KEYS AT DAYBREAK...
5:00 PM EDT Sat Sep 9
Location: 23.4°N 80.5°W
Moving: WNW at 9 mph
Min pressure: 933 mb
Max sustained: 125 mph
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41743 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

Tornado Warning CIty of Weston


Never expected to see my little hometown on TD.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82190 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

Again, here's my problem with the cone. If the cone says here's the central track and here are the outermost boundaries of that track ...... then shouldn't the track just move within the cone?

What's the point of a cone, if the whole cone moves?
Exactly the question I was asking my dad last night
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by 91TIGER
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2006
19456 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:58 pm to
Key West cam

Even more people down there right now.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11889 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:00 pm to
I'm surprised there are still shore birds in the sand at Naples. I didn't see gulls, but weren't there sandpipers?
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41743 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:01 pm to
Those people in the Keys are ridiculous for staying.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:01 pm to
NHC bad news:

quote:

Data from a NOAA Hurricane Hunter plane sampling Irma indicate
that the hurricane has not recovered yet from its interaction
with Cuba. It is estimated that the maximum winds are 110 kt. Given
the excellent satellite presentation, the lower pressure just
reported by the NOAA plane, and the fact that the hurricane will
move over the warm waters of the Straits of Florida, some
intensification is anticipated during the next 24 hours. Irma is
expected to remain a very dangerous hurricane while it moves near or
over the Florida Keys and near or over the Florida Peninsula. After
48 hours, Irma will be moving farther inland and weakening.


NHC Good news for this thread:

quote:


Radar data indicate that Irma is moving toward the west-northwest
at about 8 kt. The turn toward the northwest and north-northwest is
about to begin since the hurricane is already at the western edge of
the subtropical ridge.
The track guidance continues to be tightly
packed, and the bulk of the models take the hurricane over the
Florida Keys and near or over the Florida Peninsula. The NHC
forecast is in the middle of the guidance envelope, and given the
good agreement among models, the confidence in the track forecast is high.


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