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re: Hurricane Irma - Spinning Down

Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by ihometiger
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20703 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

the margin for error
This seems to be where some people get hung up.

They want exact or nothing several days in advance.

That's the best technology we have now and much better than anything before.

Like I said earlier, we had 2 tv channels when I was a kid and they seemed to use their gut feelings....and that was mostly landfall., the forerunner to the cone.

I'm not sure why they want to get on some guys that understand some of this and pass it on to us.

If people were completely trained in meteorology I would think they would be working somewhere instead of putting up with dickheads.

This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 4:07 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

1. Irma is expected bring life-threatening wind and storm surge to
the Florida Keys and southwestern Florida as an extremely dangerous
major hurricane tonight through Saturday. Preparations in southwest
Florida should be completed within the next few hours, as
tropical-storm-force winds are expected to begin tonight.

2. There is an imminent danger of life-threatening storm surge
flooding in portions of central and southern Florida, including the
Florida Keys, where a Storm Surge Warning is in effect. The threat
of catastrophic storm surge flooding is highest along the southwest
coast of Florida, where 10 to 15 feet of inundation above ground
level is expected. This is a life-threatening situation, and
everyone in these areas should immediately follow any evacuation
instructions from local officials.

3. Irma will bring life-threatening wind impacts to much of Florida
regardless of the exact track of the center. Wind hazards from Irma
are also expected to spread northward through much of Georgia
and portions of South Carolina and Alabama.

4. Irma is expected to produce very heavy rain and inland flooding.
Total rain accumulations of 10 to 20 inches, with isolated amounts
of between 20 and 25 inches, are expected over the Florida Keys, the
Florida peninsula, and southeast Georgia from Saturday through
Monday. Significant river flooding is possible in these areas. Early
next week Irma will also bring periods of heavy rain to much of the
southeast United States where an average of 2 to 6 inches is
forecast, with isolated higher amounts, from North and South
Carolina to Tennessee and eastern Alabama. This includes some
mountainous areas which are more prone to flash flooding. Residents
throughout the southeast states should remain aware of the flood
threat and stay tuned to forecasts and warnings.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5190 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:03 pm to
quote:

4PM Adv

125 mph
Cat 3
933 mb
WNW @ 9 mph
Next Adv 7pm CST


Question for anyone.

Now that it's on mainland radar, is there any reliable source of wind speed estimates on a realtime basis, i.e., not have to wait for NHC advisories. Also, is there any site that reports observed ground level wind speeds for various local reporting authorities?
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14067 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:04 pm to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:07 pm to
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The Brainsurgeon who decided to take pictures in Key West during Irma





Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:07 pm to
There is an idiot Gary Humphries live streaming on FB from Key West that is going to ride the storm out in an outside stairwell at a school.
LINK
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:08 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 4:19 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Now that it's on mainland radar, is there any reliable source of wind speed estimates on a realtime basis,


On radar, no, because it's looking into the air and not making surface observations.

quote:

Also, is there any site that reports observed ground level wind speeds for various local reporting authorities?



Yes, there is. LINK
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:09 pm to
I feel validated in my "gonna go more west than anticipated" guess last night
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51682 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:09 pm to
She looks good, I really think there will be an explosion in strength after she makes her move north across the Florida Straits.

(Before anyone accuses me of pulling for this to happen, which I was accused of last night, I am not hoping for this but I am just stating my thoughts on what we may see happen)

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

Storm surge in Key West



I'm a little skeptical of that video. Seems to severe for their current conditions.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

What's the point of a cone, if the whole cone moves?


To show you the historic error of these predictions at certain times out. It's to remind people the track won't be perfect; therefore, people should consider themselves at risk for a direct hit if in the cone. If the path changes, the cone will too as it represents the error bounds (which are only 1 SD for the record) of a path.
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
51682 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:10 pm to
5pm EDT, 4pm CDT advisory track:

Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14067 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:11 pm to
Can you not watch the feed if you don't have a Facebook?
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:11 pm to
Does it?
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:11 pm to
My word that wave action is INSANE.
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
20703 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

Irma is expected to produce very heavy rain and inland flooding.
This is why the cone means something.

People focus on the eye like this is a tornado.

I've been on both sides and in the eye of these things.

When you are on the ground the eye is irrelevant.

Katrina eye went over N.O.east. shite was tore up east of Biloxi.

I saw houses blew apart in Gulfport.
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41743 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:11 pm to
Parents face-timing me, they live on a lake and you can see shite people didn't bolt down just skating across
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 4:12 pm
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
5190 posts
Posted on 9/9/17 at 4:11 pm to
Thanks for all your information and data, it's very helpful.
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