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re: Hurricane Irma - Spinning Down

Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:43 pm to
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:43 pm to
It's a unique situation with a high end tropical cyclone close enough to fly so many missions and close enough to a bunch of radar sites to have a radar loop of an extended run Cat 5 in action.

They're mining this bastard for all the data it's worth no doubt.
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

I feel like NOAA is constantly flying the plane through this storm. SO MUCH DATA!

each low level recon mission goes through the eye 4 times... but yeah seemingly every time a low level mission ends a new 1 begins
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:46 pm to
You don't get a shot at a storm like this very often (thankfully) and with today's technology get all you can!
Posted by TennesseeFan25
Honolulu
Member since May 2016
8391 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:52 pm to
Just got the phonecall, headed to St. Croix for airevac missions
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 12:02 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:52 pm to
look who shows up in hour 240... potential Lee
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

Just got the phonecall, headed to St. Crois for airevac missions



Stay safe and do good work!!!
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:55 pm to
quote:

look who shows up in hour 240... potential Lee



frick this hurricane season already, no more needed!
Posted by HaveMercy
Member since Dec 2014
3000 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:58 pm to
We've had a pretty easy go of it the last several years. I guess 2017 is when we pay the piper.

Godspeed to all in the path of this storm.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:01 am to
quote:

Just got the phonecall, headed to St. Crois for airevac missions


Are you military or medevac for one of the private companies?
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31582 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:03 am to
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potential Lee


A Hurricane named Lee. All hell is gonna break loose.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 10:33 am
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:05 am to
rt3, this post is for you. Some fine soul at storm2k graphed out average forecast error in position for Irma vs # of hours out.



The Euro has outperformed everyone even the NHC, though their error is all early on. Error rate slowing down as the hours go out, pretty impressive.

Now for the poor performers: the GFS I'm looking at you. The CMC has charted better out to 120 hours. GFS easily the worst performer out past two or three days.

So uh, everyone, don't take the GFS path for much unless King Euro (and Queen UKMet apparently) start lining up on it's solution.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 12:07 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147069 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:05 am to
quote:

A Hurricane named Lee. All hell is gonna break lose.

the recurve is there... Mitch may luck out
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147069 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:08 am to
I'm not taking any of these models as gospel truth... I know there's a lot of movement

but I love anomalies
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:09 am to
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I'm not taking any of these models as gospel truth... I know there's a lot of movement


My last sentence wasn't at you.

You've been all over the model runs, I thought you'd like to see how they've all done. You've done everyone a hand showing the model runs and recon reports in this thread. My post was something I thought would be interesting to you since you've really dived deep in the models over the past week or two.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 12:13 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147069 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:12 am to
quote:

My last sentence wasn't at you.

You've been all over the model runs, I thought you'd like to see how they've all done.

oh cool... I wasn't understanding the point you were trying to make (let's just say Irma's screwed up my sleep pattern)

thanks for the info... I appreciate it
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:13 am to
Someone posted an image that Malware doesn't like...lol
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
15263 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:13 am to
I love that plot.

Is positional error in time exponential?

It sure does look like it for that plot.

I'd love to this plot for recent storms.

Run a little non-linear mixed model action with an exponential distribution



ETA:

Oceanographer with stats masters
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 12:16 am
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147069 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:15 am to
hopefully new dropsonde data will be in in like 15 minutes or so
Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
147069 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:16 am to
plane data in the eye

Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 12:16 am to
quote:


Is positional error in time exponential?


You'd have to think so for a computer model. A mistake in step one is feed into step two and the errors propogate and impact more and more of the simulation.

quote:

Run a little non-linear mixed model action with an exponential distribution 



Oh sweet statistics. That'd be pretty cool to see the result of.
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