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re: Hurricane Florence - Catastrophic Flooding Potential
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:56 pm to rds dc
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:56 pm to rds dc
95L continues to fire deep convection tonight.
A weak tropical wave moved into an area of upper level divergence and that has allowed storms to fire the last couple of days. There is an Upper Low over the Yucatan that is helping drive this process.
The red circle highlights the ULL and the green circle is where we have seen deep convection firing.
At the surface, there appears to be a sharpening wave axis or trough but it is hard to tell without any recent ASCAT passes and few reliable surface observations.
The surface trough is highlighted by a kink in the low level flow. As this flow runs up against the Yucatan the trough can get kind of folded over allowing surface vorticity to increase. We have seen that today with steadily increasing vorticity at 850mb.
We have also seen increasing vorticity at 700mb and 500mb just down shear. This is a situation were shear can aid in development, since shear is helping drive deep convection. Deep convection is needed to consolidate the surface vorticity.
700mb
500mb
The NHC is currently giving this area a 60% to develop and that seems about right. I could see them going up to 70% with the 2:00 am update but they may wait until the full set of 00z model runs are in and make a move at 8:00am, if the models are aggressive with development.
The 12z Euro EPS was fairly aggressive with many members reaching TS.
We also saw an uptick on the 18z GEFS
An lastly, the experimental GFDL 3k hfvGFS. It shows the typical rolling fist in water vapor and then a TD/TS forming in the NW Gulf.
A weak tropical wave moved into an area of upper level divergence and that has allowed storms to fire the last couple of days. There is an Upper Low over the Yucatan that is helping drive this process.
The red circle highlights the ULL and the green circle is where we have seen deep convection firing.
At the surface, there appears to be a sharpening wave axis or trough but it is hard to tell without any recent ASCAT passes and few reliable surface observations.
The surface trough is highlighted by a kink in the low level flow. As this flow runs up against the Yucatan the trough can get kind of folded over allowing surface vorticity to increase. We have seen that today with steadily increasing vorticity at 850mb.
We have also seen increasing vorticity at 700mb and 500mb just down shear. This is a situation were shear can aid in development, since shear is helping drive deep convection. Deep convection is needed to consolidate the surface vorticity.
700mb
500mb
The NHC is currently giving this area a 60% to develop and that seems about right. I could see them going up to 70% with the 2:00 am update but they may wait until the full set of 00z model runs are in and make a move at 8:00am, if the models are aggressive with development.
The 12z Euro EPS was fairly aggressive with many members reaching TS.
We also saw an uptick on the 18z GEFS
An lastly, the experimental GFDL 3k hfvGFS. It shows the typical rolling fist in water vapor and then a TD/TS forming in the NW Gulf.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:59 pm to rds dc
How will this affect winter this year?
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:01 pm to momentoftruth87
quote:
How will this affect winter this year?
It is coming
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:04 pm to rds dc
00z GFS shifts west and is creeping the Outer Banks


Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:06 pm to rds dc
It’ll be after landfall before the GFS settles on what it wants to do with this thing. It’s ridiculous how it can’t decide things sometimes.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:06 pm to Theboot32
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Could a storm like this hitting in this part of the country have a major affect on our national infrastructure? Like could this affect power distribution to a much larger area than it hits? Power plants and such...
Couldn't tell you much about the infrastructure up that way. I'd imagine something more in the DC area would be a major problem.
The GFS is sticking with a clockwise loop right on the coast of NC, but it comes in further west this run and catches more of the OBX during the loop.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:09 pm to slackster
Charlotte is a huge banking hub in the SE, Charleston is a big DoD hotbed with SPAWAR and Boeing there, and Greenville has BMW and Lockheed Martin there
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:12 pm to rds dc
quote:
00z GFS shifts west and is creeping the Outer Banks
Then turns back SW...
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:14 pm to slackster
Someone need to fark Get fricked on that GFS gif
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:18 pm to Dlab2013
Nm
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:19 pm to slackster
This storm is going to destroy a lot, but NC will be fine in the long run. My home state. There are a lot of good people there and the federal government will send in a lot of relief. I hope everyone in the direct path heeds the warnings and gets out.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:19 pm to tigercraig
I’m supposed to be flying out of Greensboro>Panamá City Panama Thursday at 7am. Hoping it doesn't get canceled. As of now it looks ok.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:20 pm to slackster
GFS finally goes inland on SUNDAY afternoon near Myrtle Beach. 3 days of pounding the coast.


Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:21 pm to NorthEndZone
Looking like I'm goingbto be pulled from the upstate SC to go work for FEMA as an EMT or Rescue firefighter in eastern NC
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 11:23 pm
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:24 pm to mikeboss550
Anyone know where I can sign up for relief efforts???
I have three bobcats, mini ex, dozers, track loaders, dump trucks, etc.
I have three bobcats, mini ex, dozers, track loaders, dump trucks, etc.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:24 pm to mikeboss550
Silver lining, the GFS has a pretty quiet tropics 168 hours out...


This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:29 pm to momentoftruth87
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Stay safe!!
My thoughts to the ppl in eastern NC and peedee of SC...really hope they heed the warnings and gtfo of dodge...but know many wont
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