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re: Huntsville AL's U.S. Space and Rocket Center facing permanent closure, Goal Exceeded!

Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:34 pm to
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FWIW I visited there with my kid a while back and it is really dated, and in desperate need of a makeover. I don't like seeing places like this close, and I hate that COVID may be part of the reason, but honestly the place is kind of a dump, and that is probably a big part of the reason for their struggles. COVID is likely just the straw that broke the camel's back.


It is indeed in need of an upgrade. Last went there 5 years ago.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:35 pm to
It’s the nature of government to grow. Any contractions are resisted by rank and file workers who depend on the government jobs for a living.

If the space camp can’t survive via private sector funds, then it should close. I wish Trump would take a sledge hammer to all the programs and facilities that remain extant only because they are funded by public monies.
Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7882 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:37 pm to
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Space camp was the greatest camp ever. I may actually donate to this go fund me


Both of my kids went and had a blast. It was $$$ well spent.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76259 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 4:38 pm to
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It is indeed in need of an upgrade. Last went there 5 years ago.


They've done some upgrades all along. I imagine a large portion of their funds go to upkeep of their exhibits, however.

Here is a story about the Saturn V refurbishment that was done last year:

Al.com
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76259 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 5:41 pm to
I was looking through the list of donors and was reminded of a man who recently passed who had a hand in the Moon Race and several aspects of the US space program. On top of his career, he had a great name, Alexander "Mac" A. McCool Jr. He was 96

Here's his obituary that lists his accomplishments:

Mac McCool Jr. Obit

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After college, he was employed by the Army Corps of Engineers in Vicksburg MS, where he met his wife of 66 years. He transferred to the Ordinance Corps, U.S. Army in 1954 in Huntsville, where he worked in the Guided Missile Development Division at Redstone Arsenal as a propulsion engineer. He developed propulsion systems for early U.S. Space launch vehicles. As chief of Engine Systems Analysis with the Army’s Ballistic Mission Agency, he was a key participant in the propulsion design of the Jupiter rocket, which placed the “Free World’s” first satellite, EXPLORER into orbit. In 1960 when Marshall Space Flight Center was established, Mr. McCool transferred to NASA to work with the Wernher von Braun team. He was heavily involved in the design of the propulsion systems for the SATURN launch vehicles. In 1969, as Chief of the Systems Project in the Office in the Marshall Space Flight Center’s Astronautics Laboratory, he directed project engineering for the SATURN/APOLLO and SKYLAB programs.




There's much more about his life and legacy at the link.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76259 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 9:20 pm to
Topped $250K in ten hours.
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4833 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 9:23 pm to
I did Nazi this coming!
Posted by Capstone2017
I love lead paint- PokeyTiger
Member since Dec 2013
2235 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 9:30 pm to
The space and rocket center or at least space camp is 501(c)(3) so all donations are tax deductible I believe. Check with your cpa to be sure though.
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
4347 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 9:43 pm to
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With all the stupid shite our fed gov spends money on we can’t keep that place open? I went there as a kid and loved it.


Add stupid sh*t the state spends money on, too. The Space Center was established by Alabama legislator and is owned by the State of Alabama.
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4833 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 9:47 pm to
Nothing is deductible. Phase out is a MF.
Posted by Capstone2017
I love lead paint- PokeyTiger
Member since Dec 2013
2235 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 10:15 pm to
Are you a CPA? I haven't heard anything about donations not being tax deductible anymore.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76259 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 10:17 pm to
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Add stupid sh*t the state spends money on, too. The Space Center was established by Alabama legislator and is owned by the State of Alabama.

The U.S. Space and Rocket Center doesn't receive any money from the state, it is a self-sustaining agency. It has been the #1 paid tourist attraction in the state for 7 consecutive years and helps generate $120 million a year.
This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 10:52 pm
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 10:17 pm to
Not to be an a-hole but this is the reality for a shite ton of museums across the country. Most were already severely underfunded and now with losses of revenue, it’s even worse.

Look in our own backyard. Knock Knock museum has been closed since March..? LASM just opened a few days a week for 4 hours a day. Consider helping out your local museums.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76259 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 10:22 pm to
There aren't many museums in the country that do what they do. For starters, they aren't just a museum, and it isn't just a local attraction. It is an international draw that offers opportunities to people from all walks of life.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 10:24 pm to
I’ll donate.
It’s an awesome place to go.
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
5338 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 10:24 pm to
This should not be coming from the small people. Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos needs to step up and cut a damn check. Their companies SpaceX and Blue Orgin pull many future employees and engineers from people that attended Space Camp.
Posted by whoa
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
5922 posts
Posted on 7/28/20 at 10:34 pm to
That’s great but 1/3 of museums in US are not expected to reopen, local & international destinations alike. Just because they don’t serve your interests, doesn’t mean that they don’t matter and don’t deserve consideration as well.

My OP was mostly for the local folks and reminding them there are some pretty great museums here as well that are suffering big time.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 10:34 am to
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This should not be coming from the small people. Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos needs to step up and cut a damn check. Their companies SpaceX and Blue Orgin pull many future employees and engineers from people that attended Space Camp.



However, the small people have raised $347,135 in 23 hours. Almost 25% to the goal in a day. If some corporations join in, this should be very doable.

Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3878 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 10:36 am to
The drunkards in DC has overspent to the tune of over 25 TRILLION dollars in the last 20 years. With our economy, even decent politicians would have a ZERO deficit. It's ridiculous.
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3878 posts
Posted on 7/29/20 at 10:39 am to
Money is printed and just given away to untold numbers of entities with guaranteed money forever, unending. The money is laundered to the elites, like Ron Forman (small example). Remember Bill Jefferson in NOLA had over 600 non profits listed at one address. It's a grab bag in DC by both the Dems and the Reps. We are being robbed not only of money, but as you are seeing now of FREEDOM and LIBERTY. It was unsustainable and the chickens are coming home to roost.
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