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re: Huntsville AL's U.S. Space and Rocket Center facing permanent closure, Goal Exceeded!

Posted on 7/31/20 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5926 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 5:53 pm to
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BTW - the place wouldn't exist w/o Nazi's.


You're such a dolt.... You meant to say without the USA going in and freeing all the Jewish scientist they held hostage to develop their weapons, right???

Learn some history...
Posted by biohzrd
Central City
Member since Jan 2010
5926 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 6:09 pm to
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Where is Tesla, Space X, General Electric, Honeywell and the other aerospace players



Well, I know Honeywell has a program for employees kids to go there for free 2 weeks out of the summer. A leadership type program. However Honeywell has also been having layoffs left and right the last couple of months, furloughing employees, and is planning another round of layoffs in October unless things change. We just lost 5 people from our site Wednesday that took early retirement packages.

That's not counting the 10 or so other people they have let go over the last couple of months, and we are an extremely small facility manpower wise. About 50 operators, ie, maint, and lab people combined. Add in the 35 or so admin/engineers , and that's almost 20% of the manpower at my facility.

Probably wouldn't look to good for them to plop down a large amount of money right now as charity, when people are losing their jobs. I'd imagine some of the other companies you mentioned are in the same boat.

Something like this has Elon Musk written all over it.
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 6:16 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
52676 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:47 pm to
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You're such a dolt.... You meant to say without the USA going in and freeing all the Jewish scientist they held hostage to develop their weapons, right???

Learn some history...
You mean like, the #1 scientist, and namesake of the von Braun Center, was a Nazi Scientist?

*totally Jewish name

This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 7:50 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 7:51 pm to
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You meant to say without the USA going in and freeing all the Jewish scientist they held hostage to develop their weapons, right???

Learn some history...


That's a bit cringeworthy considering it was Nazi V2 technology and the scientists that made it that put men on the moon.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76259 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:45 pm to
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U.S. Space & Rocket Center: #SaveSpaceCamp goal exceeded with SAIC donation




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The U.S. Space & Rocket Center issued this press release Tuesday afternoon:
SAIC has made a $250,000 gift to the U.S. Space & Rocket Center’s Save Space Camp campaign, pushing it over its initial goal just one week after the effort launched. The campaign began Tuesday, July 28, with the hope of raising a minimum of $1.5 million to sustain museum operations and to be able to reopen Space Camp in April 2021.



LINK
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76259 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 5:51 pm to
Current tally is $1,534,155.
The GoFundMe is still up, but the goal has not been increased.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14069 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 6:30 pm to
Great childhood memories of this place. My dad took his physics class to compete in The Great Moonbuggy race every year for over a decade. I wonder if they're still going to host that event.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:10 pm to
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That's a bit cringeworthy considering it was Nazi V2 technology and the scientists that made it that put men on the moon.


You should look at a to-scale comparison of a V-2 and a Saturn V. There is plenty of evidence that Von Braun was a Nazi, whether out of mere expediency or not, but to say that "V-2 technology" put men on the moon is ridiculous.

Even setting aside the difference in size and power, consider the rudimentary nature of the V-2's guidance systems compared to the ones that reached the moon. We're talking about hitting something across the English Channel within 100' or so, vs. hitting an object in outer space with similar precision.

Consider the life support systems used for Apollo, and all of its different stages and modules. I don't really see much V-2 in any of it.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16799 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:09 pm to
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You should look at a to-scale comparison of a V-2 and a Saturn V.


If you go to the museum in Huntsville they are sitting right next to each other. We went this past weekend, they are doing a good job with social distancing and making sure people aren’t grouping. We donated a bit, daughter really wants to go to space camp.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:22 pm to
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Current tally is $1,534,155.
The GoFundMe is still up, but the goal has not been increased.


Well that money will float them through the winter. Additional donations might extend their life support further depending if our COVID response remains in full force past the winter (if it does, I frankly have worries that extend well past the Space and Rocket Center though)
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:25 pm to
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I wonder if they're still going to host that event.



The Moonbuggy competition was alive and well, but who knows with COVID.

Once this all blows over I’m sure they still anticipate holding it. NASA and others scope out events like that one for young talent to hire so it’s a really beneficial event to host for all parties involved.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
5362 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:27 pm to
Happy to see this. As a kid that grew up in Birmingham, that was one of the field trips you looked forward to most.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 8:28 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76259 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:31 pm to
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The Moonbuggy competition was alive and well, but who knows with COVID.

Once this all blows over I’m sure they still anticipate holding it. NASA and others scope out events like that one for young talent to hire so it’s a really beneficial event to host for all parties involved.

Yeah, I don't expect it to go away. There's too much interest in the industry for that to happen.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:46 pm to
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You're such a dolt.... You meant to say without the USA going in and freeing all the Jewish scientist they held hostage to develop their weapons, right???

Learn some history...


Are you fricking kidding me?! And then once you get called out, you go through downvoting everybody.


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Learn some history...

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Operation Paperclip was a secret program of the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency (JIOA) largely carried out by special agents of Army CIC, in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians, such as Wernher von Braun and his V-2 rocket team, were taken from Germany to the United States, for U.S. government employment, primarily between 1945 and 1959. Many were former members, and some were former leaders, of the Nazi Party.[1][2]
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 8:49 pm to
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You would think Elon Musk would exploit this opportunity to be a hero


I mean he's already thrown all kinds of money at the SpaceX program. frick that, it's time for Bezos to step up. Considering he's damn close to being a trillionaire, I think he can afford to make a nice grant to NASA. Hell, he could even put down enough money to have it partly named after him.
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