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re: Hungary passes no-income tax law for mothers to boost birth rate

Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:45 pm to
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:45 pm to
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Mathematically, the earth's population can fit in the big island of hawaii



I’m not worried about the physical space people take up
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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31532 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:47 pm to
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We all know this is code for the world isn’t overpopulated, but minorities are the majority.



No, the world is overpopulated. White, brown, or blue
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:47 pm to
We are already have that here.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:47 pm to
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Declining birth rates are a problem all over the globe. This is the most extreme measure to combat that. I wonder if this will work to change course.



Woah someone watches Bro Jogan!! Let me get a bump of that ketamine brah
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 8:57 pm to
How about exemptions for married fathers of stay at home moms?

That'd really make a difference.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:00 pm to
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Your wife could stay home with the kiddos.

Mine quit after #2. She was a teacher and drug up.


Lots of family's can't afford their homes and lifestyles on a single income.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:01 pm to
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If people didn't have to worry about the price of daycare alone... we'd have a lot more babies. I'd have 2 more if daycare was covered. Hard to encourage people to trade children for poverty.


One of the worst things to happen to this country was when large numbers of women left the house and went to work.
Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:37 pm to
Hungarian women are collectively the most beautiful women I have seen anywhere.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:39 pm to
Birth rates will continue to go down in any educated society due to the high costs of raising kids. Even with tax incentives they are not providing a large incentive.

Most Western countries have tried minor stuff like tax breaks, but will eventually land on immigration is cheaper. Just look to Japan
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:49 pm to
And here my wife and I have the financial means and want a child but two years of trying and nada. And we are both fine health wise and fertile


shite just won’t fricking happen
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
10953 posts
Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:51 pm to
Incentivizing more women to leave their spouse is supposed to boost birth rates? Bold strategy
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:56 pm to
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Declining birth rates are a problem all over the globe.
no it isn't

Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:57 pm to
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If you have fewer than three children then you are a part of the problem,


I care so much about a society and populace that forces me to pay women to leave scott free whenever they feel like it and make me suffer.

Men created society, only men can sustain it. It will continue to decline until they stop being a constant loser when it comes to reproduction. Women have nothing to lose. They can sit on their arse and be taken care of by the state. Men have everything to lose, including everything they have worked for, and will be thrown in jail and called scum the second they decide to sit on their arse.

Society is reaping what it has sewn. Eventually the problem will sort itself out.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 9:59 pm to
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And here my wife and I have the financial means and want a child but two years of trying and nada. And we are both fine health wise and fertile
I can't miss Son. Lemme know if you need some help
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 11:28 pm to
So the numerical number is not the issue. We agree. It is the actions of that numerical value
Posted by Spankum
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Posted on 3/16/25 at 11:54 pm to
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And here my wife and I have the financial means and want a child but two years of trying and nada. And we are both fine health wise and fertile


shite just won’t fricking happen


Have gun…and will travel! Let me know if you need backup!
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15187 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 4:29 am to
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Lots of family's can't afford their homes and lifestyles on a single income.


I understand. Believe me.

Didn't say it'd be easy.

Were not loaded and do without a lot of things.

It's in reach for more people than you think. There are a lot of hard choices we make. Being able to be home with the kids is worth.
Posted by Sunnyvale
Little ST. James
Member since Feb 2024
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 5:00 am to
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And here my wife and I have the financial means and want a child but two years of trying and nada. And we are both fine health wise and fertile


Nothing wrong with calling in a shooter.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55608 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 7:38 am to
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I'm too lazy to do the research but my WAG is the number people of childbearing years who pay enough in taxes for that plan to be attractive is pretty small.

Maybe you are right.

I looked it up, and there are 41% of US households with more than $100,000 in income. About 25% are more than $150,000. So I’ll go with 33% for whom this would be effective. The thing is, it’s the 33% we want to have more children.

There are 131 million households, so this would cause about 44 million households to have an incentive for more children. If a third of them act on this, and that third has about 1.2 more children, that gives us 17.6 million more children over about 70 years. That’s a quarter of a million per year. We currently are at about 3.6 million per year, so this bumps us up 7%. We go from 1.7 to 1.8 live births per woman.

So your point looks valid. Maybe we add a cash incentive, but we impose a limit such that the ratio of your benefit cannot exceed a certain percentage of your income. We want to avoid welfare queens funding a lifestyle this way.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72111 posts
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:02 am to
That was slightly tongue in cheek. Its frustrating these days that to live in the suburban south requires a very expensive home if you dont want to live in the hood. We don't have a housing problem, we have a crime problem. It's part of what drives people to dual incomes.
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