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HR and Business Folks- need advice

Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64059 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:10 pm
Scenario:

Mid-size national company has branches all over the place.

Job is offered to me at location B, but I really want to be at location A, but they aren't hiring.

I'm willing to commute an hour to location B with the understanding I would be first in line for a future opening at Location A.

Like a "first right of refusal" or something like that.

What is the business term for something like this? What is the best way to broach this with the regional hiring director?


Asking for a friend, by the way.
Posted by tke857
Member since Jan 2012
12195 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:18 pm to
Whatever you do if they agree to that then it needs to be in your offer letter with their signatures on it.
Posted by tokenBoiler
Lafayette, Indiana
Member since Aug 2012
4416 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

What is the business term for something like this?
A mark. Or maybe a rube.
quote:

What is the best way to broach this with the regional hiring director?
Put a "Kick me" sign on your back.

Until it happens, you should figure a promise isn't happening.

If you'd be willing to take the job at location B, even if you know you'll never move to location A, then take it.
Posted by Bob Sacamano
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
5277 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:20 pm to
Get it in writing. Many times promises are made and never actually happen.
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
37811 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Whatever you do if they agree to that then it needs to be in your offer letter with their signatures on it.
This x 1 million. The guy that promised you this move is probably going to be gone to his promised move by the time your preferred spot opens up.

I would say that you're the 'preferred internal candidate for that location's next vacancy.'
Posted by TechBullDawg
Member since May 2014
1024 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:22 pm to
What difference does it make what the terminology is, they will have no obligation to let you make a lateral location move unless it's in your employment contract.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110924 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

What is the best way to broach this with the regional hiring director?
Do you know if this is at least somewhat normal or have you seen/heard of it in your company/industry?

If not, this may not be a wise play.

And like others said, if you do get it, I'd argue not just getting it "in writing" but having it in your offer letter for the position to location B. It can't just be an email where they can just say, "Well, things changed and we can't do it now." It has to be a process where they're obligated to do it as part of your employment.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64059 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Get it in writing. Many times promises are made and never actually happen.



I interned at location A, know all of them, was offered job right out of the internship at location C. Politely declined, kept bridges unburned. Now, they still don't have anything at A, or C, only B.

And when I say "I", what I mean is my friend.

I wouldn't take the job at location B if there weren't an understanding that I would get first right of refusal for a future opening at A. The commute just isn't worth it. Would just stay where I'm at.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28590 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:39 pm to
I would secure the job at location B before raising the issue that you eventually want to end up at location A. Then, once you get the job and prove your value, put in the request. This will give you a better shot to land the job and likely won’t reduce your chances of being able to transfer.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64059 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

I would secure the job at location B before raising the issue that you eventually want to end up at location A.



The issue was already raised in the first contact.... when I emailed her to ask if anything had opened up at A yet, and she said no, but if you want the job at B it is yours.

Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28590 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:44 pm to
So the one HR manager is aware of your preference. That’s different then demanding a special clause in your contract. If I was an employer, I’d give the job to the guy who wasn’t making such a demand if all things were otherwise pretty much equal.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
82036 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

If you'd be willing to take the job at location B, even if you know you'll never move to location A, then take it.
this is the bottom line. Don't take the job unless you're willing to work at location B for a long time.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
12936 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:46 pm to
In business terms that’s called a boondoggle.

Enjoy your one hour commute.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32557 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

The issue was already raised in the first contact.... when I emailed her to ask if anything had opened up at A yet, and she said no, but if you want the job at B it is yours.


Just get it in writing with signatures. Its really easy. My wife even managed to get it done when she was hired by her company 6 years ago. 2 years in a place at her desired location opened and she go the job.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
64059 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

If I was an employer,



Thanks for helping me eliminate your opinion from consideration.
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4093 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:26 pm to
W2 = ‘thank you sir may I have another’ at-will employee
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68695 posts
Posted on 3/8/18 at 4:34 pm to
writing with signatures
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