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re: How young is too young to use a pinch collar on a dog?
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:14 pm to Obtuse1
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:14 pm to Obtuse1
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Do yourself a favor if you are in the BR area, especially if this is the first dog you really plan to train, and sign up for the Larry Benoit classes, he continued the Dick Russell method after Dick quit and then died.
Unfortunately, I’m not. I’m in Bossier.
I was reading Richard Wolters’ book Water Dog and he spoke about using the choke collar in the book but as I’ve come to find out, the pinch collar works better and has less of a possibility of harming the dog.
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Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:45 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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I was reading Richard Wolters’ book Water Dog and he spoke about using the choke collar in the book but as I’ve come to find out, the pinch collar works better and has less of a possibility of harming the dog.
I have always been taught, by multiple trainers, is the prong collar is the second choice when the smooth training collar doesn't work. The links sliding from the wrist pop works like the beep on a shock collar or invisible fence collar and you don't even have to pop the collar tight just make the links jingle. I have only had to use a pronged collar once on a particularly headstrong Ridgeback, having both scent and sighthound blood if they aren't sleeping they are hunting. I think we used it on him for about 2 weeks and went back to a smooth collar for the rest of his training.
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:51 pm to Obtuse1
This is what I use 99 percent of the time when I walk my dog. They have a regular collar on but this is what the leash is attached to when they get walked several times a day.
This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 1/6/20 at 10:59 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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I’ve read that it works but can end up backfiring because the dog will just expect the treat every time and will be less willing after time to heed the command.
This is false. When the dog is a puppy then this can happen if you are not consistent. Also a treat does not have to be food it can be play time or a favorite toy. I bought a 6 week old puppy just a year ago. He is now mature that he responds to verbal commands, but it just took time and effort. He is house broken and is a great and playful dog. Negative pain response can change the dog’s personality in my opinion. Seriously the tone of your voice and a mean look on your face can scold a dog enough. Dogs have evolutionary adaptations to read human moods and facial expressions. Use that to your advantage. It works.
Dogs can read emotions
This post was edited on 1/6/20 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 8:16 am to bayourougebengal
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You telling me you train working dogs with no connection? No shock collar?? I need some pointers
Methods taught to me by trainers for Military Working Dogs. Try using a harness and drag lead. Only use the chest harness for training/working. When it goes on, the playtime is over and it's working time until it's off. I use a 15-20' drag lead attached to the harness for open field work. Latest is a 1.5yo rescue, totally untrained and was kept chained in the yard until I got him....took less than 2 weeks to master harness = work, another few days and he was walking at heel on a slack lead.
Only thing I want to do with a shock collar is put them on the bastards that torture animals with them instead of teaching wanted behavior.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 10:21 am to Bucktail1
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Very little use for a choke collar.
I believe the OP was asking about a pinch collar, which is entirely different from a choke collar, both of which are may be used by reputable trainers.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 10:39 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Should I ask my pit bull her opinion?
Posted on 1/7/20 at 10:40 am to Rize
The only downside to a pinch collar is that strangers will give you their unsolicited options.
Pinch collar + e-collar is the way to go.
Pinch collar + e-collar is the way to go.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 10:41 am to pjab
every pro trainer i encounter used wonder lead.... very very very few use pinch collars...
Posted on 1/7/20 at 10:45 am to choupiquesushi
I trust your knowledge. Wonder leads/slip leads are certainly a tool in the box.
ETA: I haven’t used a pinch collar or ecollar on my dog in some time. The leash is only carried for legal reasons.
ETA: I haven’t used a pinch collar or ecollar on my dog in some time. The leash is only carried for legal reasons.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 10:48 am
Posted on 1/7/20 at 10:57 am to Mr Clean
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Should I ask my pit bull her opinion?
Depends, will she try to track my arse down if you tell her?
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