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Posted on 3/2/20 at 5:58 am to PurpleandGold Motown
My daughter goes to a charter school that teaches a classical education, so they do a lot of reading, learn Latin, etc.
That said, they...at least as of now...don’t do much in the way of technology, which is concerning. They don’t have a lab and kids don’t use laptops, but they are only 5 years old, so maybe it will come. And they don’t have anything in the way of an arts department, which is odd.
The classical education was an easier sell for me coming from a Catholic school background, but we just moved and we’re looking hard at putting her in the public system we’re in so she gets more exposure to things she should be learning, and not Latin. Luckily, we live in Central Texas where the public schools are pretty good.
That said, they...at least as of now...don’t do much in the way of technology, which is concerning. They don’t have a lab and kids don’t use laptops, but they are only 5 years old, so maybe it will come. And they don’t have anything in the way of an arts department, which is odd.
The classical education was an easier sell for me coming from a Catholic school background, but we just moved and we’re looking hard at putting her in the public system we’re in so she gets more exposure to things she should be learning, and not Latin. Luckily, we live in Central Texas where the public schools are pretty good.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 6:12 am to PurpleandGold Motown
People who read a lot of books for enjoyment are usually educated and smart...but not all of them are successful.
I read a lot on this board for fun, it hasn't helped me a great deal .
The issue is time...and want
My public education sucked. I was exposed in my college years. I played too much...i hated reading
I turned out ok...I have it better than most
I read a lot on this board for fun, it hasn't helped me a great deal .
The issue is time...and want
My public education sucked. I was exposed in my college years. I played too much...i hated reading
I turned out ok...I have it better than most
Posted on 3/2/20 at 6:17 am to RummelTiger
Haha, my mother taught me, my brother, sister, nieces and nephews Latin. Her undergrad and first masters was in chemistry. I will say that knowing Latin certainly helped in all my science courses in high school and college.
Do I remember any of it now? Nope, except for the odd maxims , phrases and church stuff. I never could get the conjugations. It's kind of like me and Spanish.
I lived in Central America on and off for three years and still can't speak the language, but I can read and understand it passably well.
Do I remember any of it now? Nope, except for the odd maxims , phrases and church stuff. I never could get the conjugations. It's kind of like me and Spanish.
I lived in Central America on and off for three years and still can't speak the language, but I can read and understand it passably well.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 6:18 am
Posted on 3/2/20 at 6:18 am to RummelTiger
A 5 year old learning Latin might be a little too classical. That’s wild.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 6:24 am to Sun God
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A 5 year old learning Latin might be a little too classical. That’s wild.
Well, most studies show that if you're exposed to a second language at a young age, it's much easier to learn.
That whole sponge brain thing.
I mean Latin isn't necessarily bad. It's the foundation for the romance languages and a grounding in Latin makes learning those modern languages much easier.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 6:25 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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Ask the average person who John Locke is and they are likely to answer, "I know the name. Now, who does he coach for?"
4 pages and I still ain’t learned who the hell this guy be.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 6:28 am to ApexTiger
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People who read a lot of books for enjoyment are usually educated and smart...but not all of them are successful.
Success is largely a product of focus and grit.
That said, most of the successful people I know are either well read or active learners through a variety of hands on hobbies.
Successful people have an innate desire to learn and improve, and that might not always come from a book -- though in my experience, it's the least painful way to learn.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 6:29 am to PurpleandGold Motown
Learning a second language is good for a child. But it would probably be more beneficial to them to learn Spanish or French as those still give you some
Foundation in a Romance language, are both still spoken today, and both spoken by neighboring countries.
Also, how are they teaching them? A coworker of mine was telling me about his grandson going to a magnet school where they taught a math class in French. He was proudly telling us that the class could do all kinds of arithmetic in French and described how the kids couldn’t do the same operations when asked in English.
He wasn’t bragging on that part but just wondering out loud about the fascinating way the brain works. If you’re teaching kids basic principles of something, it would behove the children that it is taught in a language they will use the principles in.
Foundation in a Romance language, are both still spoken today, and both spoken by neighboring countries.
Also, how are they teaching them? A coworker of mine was telling me about his grandson going to a magnet school where they taught a math class in French. He was proudly telling us that the class could do all kinds of arithmetic in French and described how the kids couldn’t do the same operations when asked in English.
He wasn’t bragging on that part but just wondering out loud about the fascinating way the brain works. If you’re teaching kids basic principles of something, it would behove the children that it is taught in a language they will use the principles in.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 6:30 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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active learners through a variety of hands on hobbies.
This is underrated. Being able to do/understand/enjoy multiple things is a great benefit to a human being.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 6:40 am to Cdawg
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4 pages and I still ain’t learned who the hell this guy be.
John Locke is pretty much the progenitor of the philosophy on which the United States was founded. Jefferson, Madison and Hamilton cited Locke often. In fact, parts of the Declaration of Independence are taken verbatim from Locke's writings.
What we take for granted now (private property, individual liberty, the right for a man to profit from his labor, religious freedom) were the result of our founders love for John Locke. What is commonplace now was revolutionary in the 1700s.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:19 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Being able to do/understand/enjoy multiple things is a great benefit to a human being.
There is no better confidence builder, and it shows to other people that you will deal with.
Know your shop math. Be able to read prints and schematics, and most of all understand, what is happening with the mechanism in question, spot potential problems. You only get there, by having lots of experience with many different types work.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 7:23 am
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:27 am to auggie
That whole you didn't pay me for the three minutes it took to fix the problem; you paid me for the thirty years it took me to know how to fix the problem thing.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:38 am to PurpleandGold Motown
I am sorry to hear about your condition.
You can and will overcome it.
I have epilepsy, and if I have grand mal seizure I don't breathe for 3-4 minutes. Needless to say I have lost memory (I didn't have my first seizure until I was in a violent car wreck in my late 20s; a year later they started every few months. Lucky after about 15 years they have them under control with with the right meds).
I have read two of those, however I am going to read all three. It's been a while...
You can and will overcome it.
I have epilepsy, and if I have grand mal seizure I don't breathe for 3-4 minutes. Needless to say I have lost memory (I didn't have my first seizure until I was in a violent car wreck in my late 20s; a year later they started every few months. Lucky after about 15 years they have them under control with with the right meds).
I have read two of those, however I am going to read all three. It's been a while...
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:38 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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That whole you didn't pay me for the three minutes it took to fix the problem; you paid me for the thirty years it took me to know how to fix the problem thing.
Not only that, but being able to spot potential problems on paper, because you really understand the system that you are dealing with.
When I was doing that type of work, I knew a lot of Pipe fitters/welders that could build anything that could be drawn up, but they never thought about the operation. Then things would have to be changed/ adapted, causing delays going to the next part....
I also always tried to get people to think in decimals instead of fractional measurement, because it makes math so much faster, never was able to convert anybody.
Agonizing for me to watch them converting fractions.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 7:51 am
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:51 am to LSUA 75
I read, too. Just finished up The Road and roughly halfway through Blood Meridian. I am also wrapping up an MBA and have been reading business type literature. I do not equate reading old books to intelligence. Intelligence to me is problem solving skills.
Posted on 3/2/20 at 7:59 am to AUCE05
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I do not equate reading old books to intelligence. Intelligence to me is problem solving skills.
I get what you are saying, but honestly, reading Faulkner and Steinbeck, there are some surprising lessons about problem solving. Some of it is pure genius.
Faulkner, had some really great lessons about subtle manipulation of people. Steinbeck would describe getting things done, in ways that we can hardly imagine these days.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 8:13 am
Posted on 3/2/20 at 8:35 am to Porkchop Express
Where the frick did I say I was brilliant or anything of the sort?
I’m saying that learning and the desire to continue learning outside of a formal setting isn’t something you can teach. I’m saying that some people are more naturally inquisitive than others.
Sorry your little cali brain can’t comprehend that.
I’m saying that learning and the desire to continue learning outside of a formal setting isn’t something you can teach. I’m saying that some people are more naturally inquisitive than others.
Sorry your little cali brain can’t comprehend that.
This post was edited on 3/2/20 at 8:38 am
Posted on 3/2/20 at 8:45 am to fr33manator
And I agree.
But the premise of this topic is a classical education, and not life is a self-taught exercise that I am great at doing.
I too continue to strive to learn and develop. No one knows everything. The journey is trying and testing your limits.
Your answers initially came off in a way I think that was not intended.
At least my little cali brain interpreted it that way...
But the premise of this topic is a classical education, and not life is a self-taught exercise that I am great at doing.
I too continue to strive to learn and develop. No one knows everything. The journey is trying and testing your limits.
Your answers initially came off in a way I think that was not intended.
At least my little cali brain interpreted it that way...
Posted on 3/2/20 at 9:16 am to PurpleandGold Motown
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Subtle “I’m smarter than you” brag
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Damn, subtle? I was going for overt!
You pretty much nailed overt.
I have had intentions to read a great deal of classic literature but failed miserably at doing so in my life. At 58, I find myself even less inclined to do so, though I know I should. And as bad as my reading progress has been, it is better than most I know because very little value is now placed on those things.
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